Find Ancestors

Hi Everyone,
Well i'm still here and still at it. I made trip to the UK to get certs. listen to me, certs, very pro now, I don't think.
Well I think i have solved the mystery of James Tarpey my g gdad. Found him in Clitheroe working as a navvy, which i was always told he was. He was born in India his father was in the army where he died. His mother Was murdered when he was only an infant. He got himself in to some kind of trouble at work(more than once) and went off to America returning about 1888. This why I had such problems finding him.
Very interesting family I have

Marie



:-)

Connected query
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1325482?jump=1325482

Hello everyone, what do you think about this?
James Tharpe approx the right age 16 in 1891 and no record of him after that.
Tharpe to Tarpey?

This is just unbelievable, in my search i also found that my grt aunt Sarah moved to Tangiers in 1929.

I could have family there!

Marie xx

No wonder you cannot get to the record offices and rely on the boards and your dodgy postal service

It's not the wait. I live in Morocco. The post is totally unreliable. :-(

Quite a lot of the Lancashire Parish registers are also on line so again you can download the actual image and don't have to buy the cert.

Unfortunately though, as this one is a catholic marriage, those registers are not available on line :-(

The wait just makes it all the more exciting when you actually get it though Marie :-D :-D

Dea Xxx

probate - if someone leaves a will it has to go to 'probate' for validation. the probate is given to the executors named on the will who are then legally able to carry out the bequests specified in the will.

You can apply for a copy from the probate office (google should find you all the details if you want to do that) I think at the moment it takes several weeks to arrive. Postal both to apply and receive.

It's frustrating having to wait for things to arrive especially at first when you are keen to get on (I've been driving my OH mad for years and it was his family I was concentrating on!). The only consolation is that the dat and people are going no-where and as more goes on line you might find what you want next is there. I know I trawled micro-film parish registers for baptisms etc - now I can find them on line in a few minutes. Lancashire is a great county for info on-line.

Not that quick I, afraid. You will be checking the post every day now and be disappointed when no letter. They take about a week to be despatched.

If you had London relations the some parish record copies of marriages are online which is lovely cos you can view the actual cert and download it, and if the persons could write then you would see their actual signatures.

OH NO! Just tried to get my gdads marriage cert. It has to posted! I thought it could just emailed, a download. :-(

Hi Ann, yes this is him, my gparents lived in this house when I was little, I just about remember it. What does 'probate index' mean? I have been doing this for about 2 weeks now, it feels like I've been doing it for years though. driving my other-half mad.

M xx

is this your James death

Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%)
Tarpey James 72 Manchester 10e 273

There is a probate index record for James Tarpey of 32 Colllyhurst St Manchester who died 1 Jul 1946 which gives probate to James Tarpey motor driver

It is exciting when you find something that you think fits. I am sure you will get there with this. You are posting like you have been doing this for years!

Oh dear, got a bit over excited didn't I, forgot to follow it up. Must learn not to do that.

Thank you once again.

M xx

Sorry Marie, - It can't be that one (James Turpie) as he is on 1901 with new wife and 4 children, still in Bolton, same occupation and his birth shows in Dec. 1869 in Manchester as 'Turpie' .

Dea x

Do you mean 12 in 1891?

Added:
This one?
1891 England Census
James Surpie [James Turpie]
Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Rebecca Hughes
Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Bolton Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Bolton County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Little Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 3114 Folio: 111
Page Number: 29
Rebecca Hughes 42
James Surpie 22 iron spindle maker Widower
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3114; Folio: 111; Page: 29; GSU Roll: 6098224.

Hello, I think i have breakthrough, i have a James Turpie approx the right age 22, in the 1891 census, born Manchester, now in Bolton. it states son, the head of the household is his mother Rebecca Hughes, widow age 42.

Mxx

Yes - It is very 'addictive' but good fun too........

Just come back to this thread and add if you need any more help on the family.

Dea Xxx

Once again thank you all so much, this is certainly a very steep learning curve. I found my gdads other siblings through F/B. This is how I got started as I was so shocked to learn this. I only ever knew him and I only heard of his brother John because of his boxing career.
I too found the listing for James in Chorlton. this too looks promising.

I am certainly getting HOOKED on this.

M xx

I really think that is the only possible birth cert for 'your' james - this is the GRO reference if you are going to order it:

Births Sep 1872
Tarphe James Chorlton 8c 598

Other than that birth reg there is no other reference to the name Tarphe anywhere at any time that I can find!!

...........

Another very useful site you might want to explore if researching in lancashire is:

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

There wasn't much on there, however, about this particular family but I did find this baptism record for one of James and Mary's daughters - Sarah:

Baptism: 15 Mar 1903 St William, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Sara Helena Tarpey - filia Jacobi Tarpey & Mariae Helenae (formerly Traynor)
Born: 18 Feb 1903
Abode: 34 Angel St.
Godparents: Jacobo Cronshaw; Sara Traynor
Baptised by: Jacobo Corkery
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives Preston

Dea x

Posted for information

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Tarpey Eileen Traynor Manchester 8d 482 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Tarpey Mary J Traynor Manchester 8d 493 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Tarpey Julia Traynor Manchester 8d 251 Scan available - click to view

?
Births Jun 1913
Tarpey Eileen Traynor Manchester 8d 482
Births Jun 1915
Tarpey Mary J Traynor Manchester 8d 493

Marriages Jun 1899
Clare Elizabeth Ann Manchester 8d 477
Doran Edward Manchester 8d 477
xxxxTarpey James Manchester 8d 477
xxxxTraynor Mary Ellen Manchester 8d 477