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MarieCeleste
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3 May 2013 20:03 |
You should be able to find Amelia Ann on the London ER living with daughter Katherine M and her husband Geoffrey Kent prior to leaving for Canada.
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 20:06 |
from lancs-bmd
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1944
RUSCOE Katharine M KOHN Gershon Middleton Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham MIDD_RM/10/146
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 20:12 |
This also Katharine travelling on the same ships as Amelia in 1958
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Kath M Kent
Name: Kath M Kent Birth Date: 20 Nov 1912 Age: 45 Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada Arrival Date: 14 Jun 1958 Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England Ports of Voyage: Quebec Ship Name: Arosa Sun Search Ship Database: View the 'Arosa Sun' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Arosa Line Official Number: 0214/80
with 4 children
going to 113 MillHill, London staying for 3 months
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Katherine Kent
Name: Katherine Kent Gender: Female Departure Date: 5 Sep 1958 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: Montreal, Canada Ship Name: Arosa Star Search Ship Database: Search the 'Arosa Star' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Master: Ebbrey
travelling with 4 children
gives same address in Uk as Amelia .... 113 Mill Way, London, NW7
Permanent residence:- USA
so ............. it looks as though Gershon Kohn anglicised his name to Geoffrey Kent
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 20:27 |
from ancestry
All UK Medical Registers, 1859-1959 results for Gershon Kohn
The Medical Register for 1947
Gershon Kohn Address:- 2 Mayfield Road, Salford, 7 Date and Place of Registration:- 1943, July 27 E Qualifications:- M.R.C.S., England, 1943; L.R.C.P., London, 1943
The Medical Register for 1951
Geoffrey Kent (formerly Gershon Kohn) Address:- The Red House, Reynards Road, Old Welwyn, Herts. Date and Place of Registration:- 1943, July 27 E Qualifications:- M.R.C.S., England, 1943; L.R.C.P., London, 1943
He is shown at the same address in Old Welwyn in 1955
edited once ........... spelling error
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 20:31 |
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ....
interesting, maybe ???????
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Geoffrey Kent
Name: Geoffrey Kent Probate Date: 9 Mar 1959 Death Date: 28 Aug 1958 Death Place: Staffordshire, England Registry: Birmingham, England
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of 12 Green Oak Road, Bilbrook, Staffordshire, died 28 Aug 1958 at New Cross Hospital, Wolverhampton. Administration granted Birmingham 9 Mar 1959 to Kathleen Mary Kent, widow.
Effects £943 12s 10d
I KNOW this is saying Kathleen, not Katharine, BUT so many details seem to fit?????????
and I haven't found Geoffrey leaving the UK
IGNORE THIS .................. see below
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MarieCeleste
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3 May 2013 20:40 |
Sylvia, I don't think that death can be him - he was still alive aged 93 in 2006.
He is mentioned on page 5 of the newsletter on this link: http://www.ajr.org.uk/documents/ktdec06.pdf
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 20:41 |
Wonderful ..................
google
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-07-22/news/0707220163_1_chicago-ave-arlington-heights-river-forest
a snippet ................
Kent, Katharine Mary July 22, 2007
Katharine Mary Kent, born Nov. 20, 1912 in Broughton, Salford Co., England to Joseph Henry Ruscoe and Amelia Anne Crossley, died at Northwest Community Healthcare Center in Arlington Heights, IL on June 27, 2007. Raised near Manchester, England, served in the hospital there through the German Blitz of December, 1940; married in 1944; and became a resident of Tent Lodge near Coniston during WWII where she had her first of four children. Later in 1949 she moved in support of her husband's medical career to Welwyn, outside of London. She emigrated with her husband, mother and four children to Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan in 1951 and three years later emigrated again to River Forest, IL, to the corner of Keystone and Chicago Ave., living there for over 15 years. Afterward she resided in Chicago, Barrington and finally in Arlington Heights, IL. After receiving vocational training in medical administration, Katharine was employed by the Manchester Royal Infirmary in Manchester, England, and later ......................
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 20:42 |
Geoffrey Kent survived her
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3 May 2013 20:46 |
MC ................
I just realised that!
Having found Katharines' obituary, which shows that Geoffrey survived her .......... after 63 years of marriage :-0
but have left it up because it rules out that Geoffrey Kent.
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MarieCeleste
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3 May 2013 20:49 |
He had a good innings!
Chicago Tribune
Death Notice: GEOFFREY KENT April 27, 2008
Geoffrey Kent, Professor of Pathology Emeritus at Northwestern University, has led a distinguished career in research, administration and teaching in four countries across two continents.
Graduating with an M.D. from the University of Amsterdam in 1939, he displayed a remarkable affinity for training with exceptional leaders in medical research and education.
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 21:05 |
then I wonder if this is him???
Contact: Andrea Goodmaker at AJR, DECEMBER 2006 Jubilee ... www.ajr.org.uk/documents/ktdec06.pdf? Dec 8, 2006 – My father, known as Gershon Kohn then, was aboard the Bodegraven as a medical officer with his cousin, and his cousin's parents. I wished to ......
or maybe not
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 21:20 |
A Gershon Kohn was in the Royal Army Medical Corps in WW2, and was promoted to Lt. on 24th Mar 1945
Gershon Kohn (342691)
SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, n MAY, 1945 P.R: « www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37073/supplements/2473/page.pdf?
I'm getting convinced that Gershon Kohn (aka Geoffrey Kent) was a medical officer of the SS Bodegraven, the last Kindertransport to get Jewish children out of Holland.
The ship docked in Liverpool May 19 1940
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MarieCeleste
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3 May 2013 23:05 |
I'm pretty sure too Sylvia, as referenced in that newsletter link we've both posted, seems to have been a note from his son who is also mentioned in the obit.
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SylviaInCanada
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3 May 2013 23:14 |
wonder if NanaSue will return to this thread?
I don't like to feel that I have wasted my time ............... especially when it is such an interesting story.
Gershon Kohn / Geoffrey Kent appears to have been very well thought of, especially in the US.
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4 May 2013 06:15 |
Sorry for not getting back to this thread - sort of got waylaid.
This is all so very interesting - I'm quite amazed at the findings. Will have to keep all this in my family notes. Going back to the beginning it is obvious the Joesph was dead when grandpa Charles included her in his will. I'm following the trail of addresses in Manchester
As you can see from my Researching: notes my grandmothers origin is a mystery - many have tried before. I kept all the notes I got from the offices in Manchester years ago. Only this week I finally proved her sister and linked her 3 husbands. Just waiting for the certs to see what she declared about their father. Thomas James Davies - so far I've only been able to guess anything about him.
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SylviaInCanada
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4 May 2013 06:28 |
NS ................
I found what looks like his death registration on ancestry, but not on freebmd. I posted it on page 1 .............
Name: Joseph H Ruscoe Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923 Age at Death: 40 Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 143
Charles died in 1938, so yes, his will was probably written some time in the intervening 15 years .............. is there not a date on it??
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4 May 2013 06:33 |
don't know why it didn't show up on freebmd for me .................. I found it easily enough by looking for the place, and volume and page numbers!!!
Deaths Dec 1923 (>99%)
RUSCOE Joseph H 40 Salford 8d 143
He died very young!
I wonder if he served in WW1???
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4 May 2013 06:47 |
??? is this Joseph on the 1911 Census??
1911 Census
Name: Joseph Ruscoe Age in 1911: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Broughton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 97 Lower Broughton Road Manchester Marital Status: Single Occupation: Grocers Assistant Registration district: Salford Registration District Number: 465 Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 24032
John Edwin Ruscoe 52 b.ca 1859, Chorlton upon Medlock, Collector (of accounts for sewing machine co.) Rosa Ruscoe 52 b.ca 1859, Abdore, Glamonshire, Shop Keeper (Trip) <<<< ??Aberdore Joseph Ruscoe 28 Ernest Ruscoe 25 b.ca 1886, Salford, Wheelwright Edith Ruscoe 20 b.ca 1891, Manchester, Shop Assistant (Tripe) Fredrick Ruscoe 11 b.ca 1900, Irlams o' th' Heights, Lancashire, Scholar
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4 May 2013 07:00 |
ONLY ....................... Rosa may not have been Joseph's mother
Joseph Ruscoe, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Joseph Ruscoe Gender: Male Christening Date: 02 May 1883 Christening Place: Chapelry of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Ruscoe Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04104-5 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1786422 Reference ID: item 3 p 183
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Frederick Victor Ruscoe, "England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910"
Name: Frederick Victor Ruscoe Event Type: Christening Event Date: 11 Apr 1900 Event Place: Eccles, Pendlebury, Lancashire, England Gender: Age: Marital Status: Birth Year (Estimated): Father's Name: John Edwin Ruscoe Mother's Name: Rosa Spouse's Name: Spouse's Age: Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 2355967 Digital Folder Number: 004497165 Image Number: 00291
1901 Census
Name: Joseph Henry Ruscoe Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Edwin Ruscoe Mother's Name: Rosa Ruscoe Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Pendleton
John Edwin Ruscoe 42 Rosa Ruscoe 42 John William Ruscoe 20 Joseph Henry Ruscoe 17 Earnest Arthur Ruscoe 15 Rose Edith Ruscoe 10 Fanny Gertrude Ruscoe 7 Ernest Jack Ruscoe 2 Fredrick Victor Ruscoe 1
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4 May 2013 07:10 |
NOPE .................. I was wrong!!!
that must be another Joseph Ruscoe baptised in Salford with parrnts John and Sarah Ann
Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
RUSCOE JOHN EDWIN Stacey Rosa Salford 8d 159 STACEY Ross Salford 8d 159
1881 Census
Name: John E. Roscoe Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Rosa Roscoe Gender: Male Where born: Hulme, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 6 Unity St Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Grocers Assistant Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road
John E. Roscoe 22 Rosa Roscoe 22 b.ca 1859, Wales John W. Roscoe 8 months, b.ca 1880, Salford
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