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17 Apr 2013 20:35 |
Hi Louis is my great great grandfather and I have been looking for his ancesters for some time. I know he was private 1704 in the West Kent Militia and private 301 in the 89th regiment of foot. He died in service 20/2/1865 on the way back from Mooltan India, although I don't know where he was buried (maybe at sea). He married Sarah Jane Elwood 6/3/1856 in Castlebar Ireland and his father was given as Louis Ballati - an engraver. I have not been able to trace his parents although he may be linked to the Bellatti's of Lincoln. If anyone can help I would extremely grateful. regards AlanDevon
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2013 21:10 |
What proof do you have that he was born in Louth, and would that be Louth in Ireland or Lincolnshire?
The name sounds very Swiss/Italian to me?
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2013 21:14 |
According to familysearch.org his wife was Eliza Elwood and not Sarah Jane Elwood?
Louis Ballati, "Ireland, Marriages, 1619-1898" Nom: Louis Ballati
Nom du conjoint: Eliza Elwood Date de l'événement: 06 Mar 1856 Lieu de l'événement: Castlebar, Mayo, Ire Nom du père: Louis Ballati Nom de père du conjoint: Richard Elwood Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: M70214-3 Origine du système: Ireland-VR Numéro de film: 101374 ID de référence: 2:3PQL3LJ
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alan
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17 Apr 2013 21:14 |
I have a copy of his attestation papers for the 89th regiment, and it says Louth Lincoln. The family thinks it has Italian ancestry but Louis is a brick wall !
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alan
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17 Apr 2013 21:15 |
Sorry my mistake he married Eliza Jane Elwood
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17 Apr 2013 21:26 |
Burial County Lincolnshire Place Grantham Church St Wulfrum RegisterNumber 91 BurialDate 21 Jul 1829 Forename Louisa Relationship daughter of Rel1MaleForename Louis Rel1FemaleForename Sarah Rel1Surname BELLATTI Surname BELLATTI Age 16 Abode Grantham
(from below link, also others if relating)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
Burials 20 Jan 1860 BELLATI Louis Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials 13 Oct 1846 BELLATTE James Henry Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials 14 Dec 1849 BELLATTI James Henry Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials 28 May 1887 BELLATTI Ann Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials 22 Mar 1899 BELLATTI James Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials * May 1887 BELLATTI Ann Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials * Jan 1860 BELLATTI Louis Lincolnshire Louth Surname
Marriage County Lincolnshire Place Grantham Church St Wulfrum RegisterNumber 32 MarriageDate 07 Nov 1810 GroomForename Louis GroomSurname BALLATTI GroomAge GroomParish Grantham GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Sarah BrideSurname STOKES BrideAge BrideParish Grantham BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename Elizabeth WitnessOneSurname CANT WitnessTwoForename Wm. WitnessTwoSurname MARSHALL Notes Licence
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2013 21:30 |
This looks to be his wife in 1861:-
1861 England Census about Elizabeth Ballath Name: Elizabeth Ballath [Elizabeth Ballati] [Elizabeth Elwood] Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Richard Elwood Mother's Name: Jane Elwood Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Parr Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Condition as to marriage: married
Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 331 Piece: 2752 Folio: 42 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Richard Elwood 53 - Boot maker Jane Elwood 46 Elizabeth Ballath 22 - Boot closer Sarah Elwood 18 Louisa J Ballash 4 --1857 born: Ireland Richard A Ballash 2 - 1859 born: St Helens, Lancashire ..........................................
Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%) xxxx Elwood Eliza Jane Prescott 8b 827 xxxx xxxx James Prescott 8b 827 xxxx McVie Edward Prescott 8b 827 PEARSON Margaret Prescott 8b 827 ....................................................................
1871 she is remarried:-
1871 England Census about Eliza J Gallimore Name: Eliza J Gallimore [Eliza J Elwood] Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Gallimore Mother's Name: Jane Elwood Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Widnes Ecclesiastical parish: Farnworth St Luke County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 149 Piece: 3857 Folio: 124 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age James Gallimore 34 Eliza J Gallimore 29 Joseph Gallimore 10 Months Richard A Ballato 12 Jane Elwood 55
........................................ Deaths Jun 1864 (>99%) Elwood Richard Prescot 8b 464
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AnnCardiff
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17 Apr 2013 21:30 |
Name: Eliza Elwood Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 1856 Event Place: Castlebar, Ireland Registration Quarter and Year: 1856 Registration District: Castlebar Age: Birth Year (Estimated): Mother's Maiden Name: Volume Number: 3 Page Number: 357 GS Film number: 101246 Digital Folder Number: 004195892 Image Number: 00079
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2013 21:32 |
1881 England Census about Eliza J. Callimore Name: Eliza J. Callimore [Eliza J. Gallimore] Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Callimore Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Widnes County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 10 Pool St Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3726 Folio: 23 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age James Callimore 44 Eliza J. Callimore 40 Joseph Callimore 10 Eliza Callimore 9 Sarah J. Callimore 6 Richard Ballatti 22 Sarah Ballatti 19 Eliza J. Ballatti William Davies 19
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1891 England Census about Elize J Gallemore Name: Elize J Gallemore [Elize J Gallimore] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Gallemore Gender: Female Where born: Mays, Ireland Civil parish: Widnes Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Widnes County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3014 Folio: 78 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age James Gallemore 52 Elize J Gallemore 50 Joseph Gallemore 20 Eliza Gallemore 19 Sarah Gallemore 16 Louisa Bellitti 3
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AnnCardiff
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17 Apr 2013 21:32 |
Name: Louis Ballati Spouse's Name: Eliza Elwood Event Date: 06 Mar 1856 Event Place: Castlebar, Mayo, Ire Father's Name: Louis Ballati Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Elwood Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70214-3 System Origin: Ireland-VR GS Film number: 101374 Reference ID: 2:3PQL3LJ
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alan
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17 Apr 2013 21:34 |
thanks for the info. I am leaning towards Louis being related to the Bellatti's because the name is spelt in so may ways. I don't understand if he died in the Army why I cannot find any record of where he is buried or what happened to his possessions
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2013 21:38 |
1901 England Census about Eliza J Gallimore Name: Eliza J Gallimore Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Prescot Ecclesiastical parish: Prescot St Mary Town: Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Piece: 3517 Folio: 61 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age John Fairhurst 29 Eliza Fairhurst 29 Eliza J Gallimore 60 Sarah G Gallimore 27 Louisa Ballatte 13 - 1888 Niece born: Widnes, Lancashire John F Reid 40 ............................................................
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Eliza Jane Gallimore Name: Eliza Jane Gallimore [Eliza Jane nee Elwood formerly Ballati] Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908 Age at Death: 65 Registration district: Prescot Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 577
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17 Apr 2013 21:38 |
Name: John Lloyd Birth Date: 1850 Birthplace: Age: 30 Spouse's Name: Louisa Jane Ballatti Spouse's Birth Date: 1858 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 22 Event Date: 26 Jan 1880 Event Place: Farnworth (Near Prescot), Lancashire, England Father's Name: John Lloyd Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Lewis Ballatti Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Single Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01060-9 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1655237 Reference ID: it 1, p. 103
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AnnCardiff
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17 Apr 2013 21:39 |
Name: Richard Arthur Ballatti Birth Date: 1859 Birthplace: Age: 21 Spouse's Name: Sarah Holding Spouse's Birth Date: 1862 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 18 Event Date: 20 Sep 1880 Event Place: St. John'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father's Name: Lewis Ballatti Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: William Holding Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Single Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01042-9 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1656200 Reference ID: P. 153 No. 305
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AnnCardiff
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17 Apr 2013 21:39 |
Name: Lousia J Ballatti Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 14 Relationship to Head of Household: Visitor Birthplace: Ireland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Prescot Sub-District: Farnworth Parish: Widnes County: Lancashire Household Gender Age Birthplace Self Ralph Nield M 30 Sankey, Lancashire Wife Sarah R Nield F 26 Ireland Son James Nield M 8 St Helens, Lancashire Son Arthur Nield M 2 Widnes, Lancashire Son Ernest A Nield M 0 Widnes, Lancashire Visitor Lousia J Ballatti F 14 Ireland
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alan
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17 Apr 2013 21:41 |
Thanks Catherine - Richard A Ballash is my great grandfather Richard Arthur Ballatti and the name is incorrectly spelt on the census. Eliza Jane married James Gallimore 17/5/1869 Louis died 20/2/1865.
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AnnCardiff
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17 Apr 2013 21:42 |
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Name: Breanda M O'Laoghaire Event Type: Birth Event Date: Jan - Mar 1951 Event Place: Dublin North, Ireland Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1951 Registration District: Dublin North Age: Birth Year (Estimated): Mother's Maiden Name: Ni Balaithe Volume Number: 2 Page Number: 565 GS Film number: 257845 Digital Folder Number: 004202542 Image Number: 00064
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AnnCardiff
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17 Apr 2013 21:46 |
just found this one - just in case he's a connection
Wm Holding Ballatti, "United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"Name: Wm Holding Ballatti Event Type: Military Service Event Year Range: 1918-1921 Event Place: United Kingdom Birthplace: Lancashire Birth Year: 1902
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ArgyllGran
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17 Apr 2013 21:47 |
While trawling Ancestry, I see there are several member trees mentioning Bellatti's in Como, Italy. No sign of Louis, but maybe his family originated in that area?
I had hopes of this one for his father- maybe those ornate toilets could have counted as engraving?! - but it's not him. http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/18726466/person/1958867104/photo/3da94a04-b614-48d3-90e6-f6cd29bf5a79?src=search
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Apr 2013 21:48 |
louis ballatti 1865
(putting above on google, seems to bring up a one name study)
Chris :)
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