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Hi. I have :1911 census: head of Household, age 52yrs, married 34yrs,Occupation: Gas Fitter,Own Account, Born: City EC, Living at 67 Rippoth Road Bow E (2 Rooms), Sigiture on Census was signed by William F Martin on behalf of Smith. Number of Children born alive 9, Children alive 5, children dead 4
His wife is mamed Emma age 54yrs (born Yarmouth Norfolk }.Also living with them is sons James and Frederick...would really like to find the family in the 1901 census...any help appreciated...Thank You Chris

Purely for INFO

1911 census

Person: SMITH, Emma Address: 67 Rippoth Road Bow E

SMITH, William Head Married M 52 1859 Gas Fitter City EC VIEW
SMITH, Emma Wife Married34 years F 54 1857 Nothing Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW
SMITH, James Son Single M 32 1879 Boots Work Clicker Hackney Wick VIEW
SMITH, Fred Son Single M 18 1893 Boot Work Clicker Hackney Wick VIEW

Hi....this is the INFO i already have ...but would like to find this family in the 1901 census..but .thank you so much Reggie

I can't find find this family on any census other than the 1911. Have you found them on any other?

Found this, just to narrow the search done as much as possible. So, in 1893 they were living in Shoreditch.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Frederic John Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1893- Newing Yard, Shoreditch
Father's Name: William Smith - Gas fitter
Mother's Name: Emma Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney

Hi...no I can't find them anywhere either...?....I do have frederic Birth cert ...he was born at 3 New Inn Yard...but I am not able to trace them anywhere in the 1901 census....thank you ChrtinaS

I see on the 1891 census that 3 New Inn Yard is listed as a warehouse, with no occupants! Very strange.

Do you have the actualy birth certificate, with his mother's maiden name on?

I did some research on another family on this road
It is tiny.
I seem to remember there was a fair bit mistranscription around the address.
I will have another look.

Not yet.

I have been focusing on finding E* Smith born 1857 =/- 2 born norfolk living in Hackney

could be without wife

note Mary Ebbets born in Norfolk

EBBETTS, Alexander Head Married M 45 1856 House Painter
Paddington, London VIEW
EBBETTS, Mary Wife Married F 37 1864
Fincham, Norfolk VIEW
SMITH, William H Brother-In-Law Married M 42 1859 Gas-Fitter
Holborn, London VIEW
SMITH, Sidney H Nephew Single M 18 1883 Blacksmith
Mitcham, Surrey VIEW
SMITH, Lillian E Niece Single F 16 1885 Dressmaker
Mitcham, Surrey VIEW
SMITH, Florence F Niece Single F 13 1888
Streatham, London VIEW

Piece: 479

Folio: 104

Page: 15

Registration District: Wandsworth

Civil Parish: Streatham

Municipal Borough:

Address: 23, Ellison Road, Streatham

County: London

Name: William Henry Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Ellen Fisher
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Aug 1881
Parish: Dartmouth Park Hill St Peter
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Henry James Smith
Spouse Father Name: S?? Fisher (Stephen)
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Alexander Ebbetts
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Age: 32
Spouse Name: Mary Fisher
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Jul 1888
Parish: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Henry Ebbetts
Register Type: Parish Register

her father also Stephen Fisher

this looks like the Smith family who are with the Ebbetts in 1901 -


1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 456
Folio: 62
Page: 10
Reg. District: Wandsworth
Sub District: Streatham
Parish: Streatham
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: St Alban
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 48, Thrale Road, Streatham, Balham
County: London

SMITH, William H Head Married M 32 1859 Lamplighter
Holborn, London
SMITH, Ellen Wife Married F 28 1863
Fincham, Norfolk
SMITH, Arthur W Son M 9 1882
King's Cross, London
SMITH, Sidney H Son M 7 1884
Mitcham, Surrey
SMITH, Lillian E M Daughter F 6 1885
Mitcham, Surrey
SMITH, Florence F Daughter F 2 1889
Streatham, Surrey

Hi. thank you so much for trying...I have Freds Birth cert...
Born Shoreditch Infirmary Hoxton Road Haggerston
3 New Inn Yard, Shoreditch, Haggerston (1893)
23, Candy St, Bow E3 (1915-at time of marraige)

His mother and fathers marraige cert...
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1877
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Arthur Crowe
Spouse Father Name: James Smith
CROWE Emma Bethnal Green 1c 494

Just cannot seem to find them in the 1901 census.....

oooops...just reading my notes...and found that William Smith..

SMITH, William Head Married M 52 1859 Gas Fitter City EC VIEW ...his father is James...and I understand that he was ffrom Scotland...just wondering if the family were in Scotland in 1901 census...I guess anything is worth a try...lol

the occupation of the William Smith who married Emma Crowe was
TAILOR as was both of their father's

have you got them on any other census records?

1871
SMITH, Thomas Head M 56 1815 Scotland TAILOR
SMITH, William Son M 13 1858 Middlesex
SMITH, Margaret Daughter F 11 1860 Middlesex
SMITH, Caroline Daughter F 8 1863 Middlesex
SMITH, Edith Daughter F 5 1866 Middlesex

Piece: 504

Folio: 32

Page: 28

Registration District: Whitechapel

Civil Parish: Old Artillery Ground

Municipal Borough:

Address: Duke St, Old Artillery Ground

County: London, Middlesex


1861
SMITH, Francis Head Married M 46 1815 Tailor
Leith, Scotland
SMITH, Maria Wife Married F 40 1821 Tailoress
Wapping, Middlesex
SMITH, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Scholar
Stepney, Middlesex
SMITH, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 8 1853 Scholar
Islington, Middlesex
SMITH, William Son Unmarried M 3 1858
City London, Middlesex
SMITH, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860
London City, Middlesex

Piece: 229

Folio: 39

Page: 3

Registration District: London City

Civil Parish: St Katherine Cree

Municipal Borough: City of London

Address: 5, Cree Crurch Lane, St Katherine Cree, City Of London

County: London

1881

SMITH, James Head Married M 66 1815 Tailor
Leith, Scotland VIEW
SMITH, Maria Wife Married F 59 1822
St Georges E., Middlesex VIEW
SMITH, Margaret Daughter Single F 21 1860 Bookbinder (Maker)
London, City OF, Middlesex VIEW
SMITH, Caroline Daughter Single F 18 1863 Book Folder (Binder)
London, City OF, Middlesex VIEW
SMITH, Florence Grand Daughter Single F 3 1878
Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW

Piece: 387

Folio: 42

Page: 23

Registration District: Shoreditch

Civil Parish: Shoreditch

Municipal Borough:

Address: 167, Gladstone Bdgs, Shoreditch

County: London, Middlesex

Name: Maria Elizabeth Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1848
Father's Name: James Smith - Tailor
Mother's Name: Maria Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Maria Elizabeth Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Henry James Smith b. Norwich
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1870
Parish: Walworth St Peter
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Smith - Tailor
Spouse Father Name: Robert Smith
Register Type: Parish Register

was hoping that the rest of the family night be living nearby , so tracked on censuses but no luck

James and Maria in 1891
Name: James Smith
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 9b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 258
Folio: 37
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Smith 76
Maria Smith 69
Florence Smith 12


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Emma Crowe.... I think that was the one I did research on.

Let me see if I can find it.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1210224

and http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/971370

It is best you keep to one thread so as not to duplicate work. With the information on the other thread we could have saved ourselves lots of work,