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Never thought of that Shirley, thank you very much for reply.

Regards Jean

It may just be her birth wasnt registered

There were no penalties till 1875 for non registration so many births were never registered before then

Nudge up please.

I have seen the info on my threads and have looked at them all this morning thanks to everyone.
The 1881 census 13 Queen St Burton Extra is not her as we have never had anyone called Fanny in the family. 1891 is not her. 1881 Address 30 West St Bromwich St is her. This is the info i have i sent for her birth cert last year and it came back could not find i also sent for marriage cert she married Thomas Glazebrook 29/3/1880 The Parish Church . West Bromwich. His father was John Gllazebrook a Miner. Her father was Samuel Whitehouse. Boatman. Annie and Thomas had 3 children Ann M. B 1881, Elizabeth B 1882,they were born in Oldbury. then my grandmother Emily B 1886 in Shrewsbury. Annie died in 1888 n Shrewsbury and Thomas died 1899 in Shrewsbury. It is Annie's mother that i can't trace.
I see that in 1881 census Astra found a marriage for a Samuel Whitehouse and Hannah Evans both Boat people and they married in 1873, they were in Stoke-upon Trent, i wonder if Samuel's wife died and e married again and f he could be Annie's father. Thank you very much to everyone but as i say i give up now myself.


Jean

This is your family in 1891. Thomas is a widower and a Frame work knitter

Name: Emily Glazebrook
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: St Julian
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2111
Folio: 42
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha James 34
Edith M James 12
Walter James 7
Letitia James 2
Agnes James 2
Thomas Glazebrook 34
Ann M Glazebrook 10
Elizabeth Glazebrook 9
Emily Glazebrook 5

and in 1881

Name: Annie Glazebrook
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Glazebrook
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Oldbury
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: 30 West Bromwich St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2838
Folio: 28
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Glazebrook 25
Annie Glazebrook 25
Ann M. Glazebrook

nudging

Jean, just to recap, did you give Thomas' occupation, and any addresses given on Marriage cert? And her father's name?
Jan

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345390

(nudge up, for Jean)

Chris :)


edits (Thomas below?)

Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Glazebrook Thomas 42 Atcham 6a 441


http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php

(not sure if above any use)

1881 census transcription details for: 115, Tramway, Stoke Upon Trent


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2724
Folio: 136
Page: 49
Reg. District: Stoke upon Trent
Sub District: Shelton
Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 115, Tramway, Stoke Upon Trent
County: Staffordshire

WHITEHOUSE, Samuel Head Married M 54 1827 Boatman
Shropshire
WHITEHOUSE, Hannah Wife Married F 53 1828 Boatwoman (Barges)
Shropshire
EVANS, Henry Son Single M 16 1865 Labourer
Walsall, Staffordshire

Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
EVANS Hannah Dudley 6c 188
WHITEHOUSE Samuel Dudley 6c 188

1851 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Langley Green
Parish
District West Bromwich, Oldbury
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name John Whitehouse
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1809
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Boat Loader Lab
Birth Place Oldbury
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 2
Name Mary Whitehouse
Age 43
Estimated Year of Birth 1808
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Warley Wigan
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 3
Name Samuel Whitehouse
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Boat Man
Birth Place Langley
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 4
Name Sarah Whitehouse
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Langley
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 5
Name Joseph Whitehouse
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Langley
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 6
Name Susannah Whitehouse
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1843
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Langley
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 7
Name Emma Whitehouse
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Langley
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 8
Name Matilda Whitehouse
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1847
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Langley
Birth County Worcestershire

1861 census.....there is this Samuel but no Annie

Name: Samuel Whitehouse
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Whitehouse
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Leicester Augustine Friars
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 2298
Folio: 87
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Whitehouse 28 occ Boatman
Charlotte Whitehouse 24 b Uxbridge Middx

Possible but no Father What was her mothers name


1861 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address 4, Old Meeting Street
Parish West Bromwich
District West Bromwich, West Bromwich North-East
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name Sarah Whitehouse
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1809
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation ...employing 235 Men
Birth Place ...
Birth County
Householder 2
Name Richard Whitehouse
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation ...at Work
Birth Place West Bromwich
Birth County Staffordshire
Householder 3
Name Mary Whitehouse
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1843
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation ...at Work
Birth Place West Bromwich
Birth County Staffordshire
Householder 4
Name John Whitehouse
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place West Bromwich
Birth County Staffordshire
Householder 5
Name Annie Whitehouse
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place West Bromwich
Birth County Staffordshire
Householder 6
Name Sarah Jane Jones
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation House Servant
Birth Place West Bromwich
Birth County Staffordshire

Thank you everyone for your help and I will look at it all.


Regards Jean

Witnesses on wedding cert are Richard James Handley or Standley and Hannah Maria Handley or Standley can't make it out.



Jean

Jan they had 3 children Ann M b1881 in Oldbury Ezabeth b 1882 oldbury, and Emily b 1886 in Shrewsbury she was my grandmother.
Jean

Can you tell us who the witnesses were on the marriage cert?

1881 census?

Name: Thomas Glazebrook
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Glazebrook
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Oldbury
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 30 West Bromwich St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Engine Tender

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2838
Folio: 28
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Glazebrook 25
Annie Glazebrook 25
Ann M. Glazebrook

Astra thank you for looking but I don't think that's her.

Jean

did they have any children?
what was Thomas occupation on marriage cert?

But they are still together in 1891

1891 census transcription details for: 7, Hemming Street, Winnington


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2837
Folio: 26
Page: 2
Reg. District: Northwich
Sub District: Northwich
Parish: Winnington
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Helens Witton
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 7, Hemming Street, Winnington
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GLAZEBROOK, Thos Head Married M 36 1855 Steam Engine Maker Fitter
Derby, Derbyshire
GLAZEBROOK, Annie Wife Married F 35 1856
Cotes Heath, Staffordshire
GLAZEBROOK, Fanny Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Stapenhill, Derbyshire
GLAZEBROOK, Bertie Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
GLAZEBROOK, William Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Winnington, Cheshire
GLAZEBROOK, Henry Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Winnington, Cheshire
GORDON, Thomas Boarder Single M 25 1866 Joiner
Scotland
CHESHIRE, Thomas Boarder Single M 22 1869 Fitters Labourer
Wales