Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Frances
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:19 |
The gods are not smiling on me today ...
I have found my target George F Lawton and his parents but I am unable to determine whether he had any siblings, because he is before 1912...
Marriages Sep 1890 Lawton Francis W. Derby 8b 1029
Griffiths Sarah Jane W. Derby 8b 1029
1911 Census LAWTON FRANCIS M 1869 42 West Derby Lancashire LAWTON SARAH JANE F 1869 42 West Derby Lancashire LAWTON GEORGE F M 1891 20 West Derby Lancashire
Births Jun 1891 Lawton George Frederick W. Derby 8b 532
1901 Census Lawton George J 1891 Lancashire, West Derby Lawton Francis 1869 Lanc Liverpool Lancashire, West Derby Lawton Sarah J 1869 Lanc Liverpool Lancashire, West Derby
Can anybody see if there was anybody else at home in 1911 or 1901 please?
Many thanks, Frances
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:27 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: LAWTON, Francis Address: 41 Woodside ST LAWTON, Francis Head Married M 42 1869 Coach Body Maker Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Sarah Jane Wife Married20 years F 42 1869 Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, George Frances Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Porter Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 17 1894 Domestic Servant Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Annie Daughter F 15 1896 Fruit Business Assistant Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Henry Son M 13 1898 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Thomas Son M 11 1900 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Ellen Daughter F 9 1902 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Alice Daughter F 7 1904 Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Emma Daughter F 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Frances Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Lancs Liverpool VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 22591 Reference: RG14PN22591 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED39 SN180 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: West Derby Western Enumeration District: 39 Parish: West Derby Address: 41 Woodside ST County: Lancashire (12 children born, 9 living, 3 had died)
Possibly another Daughter...
Births Jun 1913 (>99%) Lawton Catherine M Griffiths W.Derby 8b 1087
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:29 |
Is this not him ?
1911 Name: George F Lawton Age in 1911: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 32 Bradfield St Marital Status: Single Occupation: Coach Body Maker Registration district: West Derby
James Lawton 64 Annie Lawton 50 Sarah E Lawton 26 Fannie Lawton 24 James Lawton 23 Catherine S Lawton 21 George F Lawton 20 Alice A Lawton 14
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:31 |
Is he Geroge Francis or George Frederick...?
|
|
Frances
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:33 |
Thank you PricklyHolly and Mike. Sorry Mike but yours doesn't have the right parents!
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:34 |
1901 England Census about George F Lawton Name: George F Lawton Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's Name: Francis Lawton Mother's name: Sarah J Lawton Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Piece: 3488 Folio: 125 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Francis Lawton 32 (Body Coach Maker) Sarah J Lawton 32 George F Lawton 9 Hannah E Lawton 7 Annie E Lawton 5 Robert H Lawton 3 Thomas Lawton 1 Samuel Higgins 39 (Lodger)
Edit: Residence 4 Railway Cottages
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:35 |
You posted a birth for George Frederick
Births Jun 1891 Lawton George Frederick W. Derby 8b 532
Do you have the correct birth certificate?
How do you if know this is your man ?
This one is Geoge Francis
1901
Name: George F Lawton Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's Name: Francis Lawton Mother's name: Sarah J Lawton Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England : Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western
Francis Lawton 32 Sarah J Lawton 32 George F Lawton 9 Hannah E Lawton 7 Annie E Lawton 5 Robert H Lawton 3 Thomas Lawton 1 Samuel Higgins 39
|
|
Frances
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:43 |
Thank you PricklyHolly and Mike, I am working with information given to me by the decendant (grandson) and I think George Frederick was still around when he was born
|
|
Frances
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:51 |
Mike, I have been thinking about what you have said and I take your point. Not all the info I have been given on other branches of the family has been sound so I will try to get certificate confirmation.
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 10:58 |
Are the parents of your George definately Francis and Sarah?
How did you come across him in the first place?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about George Francis Lawton Name: George Francis Lawton Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1892 Registration district: West Derby Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 530
Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about George Francis Lawton Name: George Francis Lawton Birth Date: 31 Dec 1891 Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1892 Parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan Father's Name: Francis Lawton (Coach Builder) Mother's name: Sarah Jane Lawton Abode: 23 Rokesmith Street......(Same Address as the 1891 census)
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 11:10 |
This is George Frederick Lawson and family.........
Household transcription 1911 census Person: LAWTON, George F Address: 32 Bradfield ST LAWTON, James Head Married M 64 1847 Railway Pensionerm L And N W Lancs Ashton U Lyne VIEW LAWTON, Annie Wife Married29 years F 50 1861 Lancs Halewood VIEW LAWTON, Sarah E Daughter Single F 26 1885 Asst: Teacherr Elementary Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Fannie Daughter Single F 24 1887 Cashier Furnishing Coy Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, James Son Single M 23 1888 Sheet Metal Worker Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Catherine G Daughter Single F 23 1888 Assist Teacher Element Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, George F Son Single M 20 1891 Coach Body Maker Lancs Liverpool VIEW LAWTON, Alice A Daughter F 14 1897 At School Lancs Liverpool VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 22566 Reference: RG14PN22566 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED14 SN204 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: West Derby Western Enumeration District: 14 Parish: West Derby Address: 32 Bradfield ST County: Lancashire (8 children born, 6 living, 2 had died)
1901 England Census about George F Lawton Name: George F Lawton Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Lawton Mother's name: Annie Lawton Gender: Male Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Cyprian County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Piece: 3490 Folio: 81 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age James Lawton 54 (Railway Passenger Guard) Annie Lawton 40 Sarah E Lawton 16 Fanny Lawton 14 James Lawton 13 Catherine Lawton 11 George F Lawton 10 Alice A Lawton 4
Do you know who your George married?.......if so....this might help.
George "Frederick" on the image...
Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about George Mederick Lawton Name: George Mederick Lawton (Coach Builder) Bachelor.... 32 Bradfield Street. Birth Year: abt 1891 Age: 27 Marriage Date: 16 Jul 1918 Parish: Liverpool St Philip Spouse's Name: Prudence Walker (Spinster) 42 Malvern Road. Father's Name: James Lawton (Railway Guard) Spouse Father's Name: Richard Walker (Litho Graphic Printer)
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 11:48 |
George Francis marriage.....
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about George F. Lawton Name: George F. Lawton Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1892 Age: 21 Father's Name: Frank Lawton Spouse's Name: Mary E. Wilcox Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Father's Name: William Wilcox Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913 Marriage Place: Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Mary Elizabeth Wilcox Name: Mary Elizabeth Wilcox Birth Date: 8 Sep Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1893 Parish: Stoneycroft All Saints Father's Name: William Wilcox (Fireman) Mother's name: Alice Wilcox
|
|
Frances
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 15:38 |
Thank you for all the extra PricklyHolly. I have heard back from the descendant and it is George Francis so that is fine. What threw me was that they had his birth as 1891, which is correct - 31 Dec lol - but of course he was not registered until 1892
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 16:08 |
Ah yes Frances.
Lots of people get confused when that happens!!
Happy researching.......Prickles.
|
|
Mike *
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 17:00 |
Info from a tree, but check the details as they are not all sourced.
George Francis Lawton
Birth 31 Dec 1891 in Edge Hill, Lancashire, England Death Jun 1961 in Liverpool North, Lancashire, England
Name: George Francis Lawton Birth Date: 31 Dec 1891 Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1892 Parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan Father's Name: Francis Lawton Mother's name: Sarah Jane Lawton
Parents Francis George Lawton B:07 Apr 1867 in West Derby, Lancashire, England Sarah Jane Griffiths Birth18 Jul 1868 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England ----------------------------------------------------
Name: Sarah Jane Griffiths spouse : Francis Lawton Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1890 Registration district: West Derby Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 1029
-----------------------------------
1911
Name: Francis Lawton Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 41 Woodside St Edge Hill Liverpool Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coach Body Maker Registration district: West Derby
Francis Lawton 42 Sarah Jane Lawton 42 - Married 20 yrs.... 12 children born, 3 died George Francis Lawton 19 Elizabeth Lawton 17 Annie Lawton 15 Henry Lawton 13 Thomas Lawton 11 Ellen Lawton 9 Alice Lawton 7 Emma Lawton 4 Francis Lawton 7/12
--------------------------------------
Name: George F. Lawton Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1892 Age: 21 Father's Name: Frank Lawton Spouse's Name: Mary E. Wilcox Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Father's Name: William Wilcox Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913 Marriage Place: Wavertree, Lancashire, England
|
|
Frances
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 17:51 |
Thank you Mike * - Is this a star because you are one lol
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 19:13 |
1891 England Census about Francis Lawton Name: Francis Lawton Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah J Lawton Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal) ED, institution, or vessel: 42a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2996 Folio: 84 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Francis Lawton 22 (Coach Body Maker) Sarah J Lawton 22
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 19:25 |
I think the Elizabeth born 1894 in the 1911 census is the Hannah E who appears in the 1901 census...
Births Mar 1894 (>99%) Lawton Hannah Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 519
And Henry who appears in the 1911 census is Robert H who appears in the 1901....
Births Mar 1898 (>99%) LAWTON Robert Henry W Derby 8b 597
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
26 Mar 2013 19:59 |
I have checked out the info regarding the Father of George Francis Lawton.
Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Francis George Lawton Name: Francis George Lawton Birth Date: 7 Apr 1867 Baptism Date: 5 May 1867 Parish: Stanley St Anne Father's Name: George Lawton (Dyer) Mother's name: Ann Lawton Abode: Poplar Grove
There is also this Baptism for a Francis Lawson.......
Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Francis Lawton Name: Francis Lawton Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1869 Parish: Edge Hill St Catherine Father's Name: George Lawton (Porter) Mother's name: Hannah Lawton Abode: 57 Edward Street.
Here is the other Francis in the 1901 census...
1901 England Census about Francis Lawton Name: Francis Lawton Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Lawton Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Islington ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 165 Piece: 3423 Folio: 38 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Francis Lawton 35 (Ships S..man) Seas Ann Lawton 33 John R Lawton 11 Samuel Lawton 10 Dinah Lawton 9 Son John's marriage record........
Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about John Richard Lawton Name: John Richard Lawton Birth Year: abt 1890 Age: 24 Marriage Date: 16 Feb 1914 Parish: Liverpool All Saints Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Matthews Father's Name: Francis George Lawton <<<(Seaman) Deceased Spouse Father's Name: Patrick Matthews One of the witnesses is Diana Lawton........Probably his Sister Dinah.
Francis George Lawton married Ann Jane Bretherton in 1889.
So it seems that the Father of George Francis Lawton is Francis Lawton (No middle name of George) and i would say that the parents of your Francis Lawton is George and Hannah........
1881 England Census about Frank Lawton Name: Frank Lawton Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Lawton Mother's name: Hannah Lawton Gender: Male Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 14 Railway Cottages Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal) ED, institution, or vessel: 53 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3708 Folio: 85 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age George Lawton 45 (Railway Inspector) Albaston Staffordshire Hannah Lawton 42 West Bromwich Staffordshire Edith Lawton 14 West Bromwich Staffordshire Frank Lawton 12 Thomas Lawton 8 Harry Lawton 6 Alice Lawton 3 George Lawton Henry Pears 21 (Boarder)
|
|
PricklyHolly
|
Report
|
27 Mar 2013 09:36 |
Although baptised as Francis, his parents obviously preferred to call him Frank. He appears as Frank on son George's marriage record too.
He is not with his parents in the 1871 census...
1871 England Census about Frank Lawton Name: Frank Lawton Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil parish: Wavertree Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Wavertree County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Wavertree ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 49 Piece: 3851 Folio: 106 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age John Summerfield 51 Harriott Summerfield 48 Frank Lawton 2 James Dunlop 22 June Dunlop 19
1871 England Census about George Lawton Name: George Lawton Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Lawton Gender: Male Where born: Adbaston, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Household schedule number: 169 Piece: 3846 Folio: 132 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age George Lawton 35 (Railway Beaksman) Hannah Lawton 34 Edith Lawton 4 Matthew Bate 22 (Lodger)
|