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Yes, you have mentioned it before... but you do understand a lot! You maybe able to go on these genealogy sites, but you still need to work out the connections, dates, who's who, etc... quite a bit of skill involved!

Nah, just have a subscription to a couple of genealogy sites :-)

Thanks very much for all of this info Kucinta, I'm impressed, you know a lot!

It's possible there is a link between Mary Ann Ford nee Preston and the Bennett family, but it's very tentative.

The witnesses at the Ford-Shepheard marriage were William Benjamin Taylor and Catherine Taylor.

?????

Name: William Benjamin Taylor - smith<<<<<<<
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Catherine Preston
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Mar 1850
Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Joseph Taylor - smith <<<<<
Spouse Father Name: John Preston bricklayer <<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register

So Catherine Taylor might be Mary Ann's sister.

William Benjamin Taylor's baptism???

Name: William Benjamin Taylor
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1829
Father's Name: Joseph Taylor
Mother's name: Elizabeth Taylor
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father Joseph a smith.

There is a possible marriage for Joseph and an Elizabeth BENNETT.

Name: Joseph Taylor
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Bennett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Aug 1808
Parish: Newington St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register

or an Eliza Bennett

Name: Joseph Taylor
Spouse Name: Eliza Bennett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Apr 1809
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Register

However no way yet of directly linking them to the family of John Bennett and wife Mary Ann, even assuming one of the marriages for Joseph Taylor is the correct one..

Belt & braces!!!

Census 1851 confirms yet again Eliza's birthplace as Lambeth c1828.

It also confirms William's birthplace as St Andrew, Holborn, as per the baptism posted earlier on this page.

Address: 35, Nelson Street, Saint Luke, Finsbury County: Middlesex

BENNETT, William Head Married M 29 1822 Smith
Holborn St Andrew<<<<<<<<<<<<
BENNETT, Eliza Wife Married F 23 1828 Lambeth<<<<<<<<<<
BENNETT, William Son M 0 (2 WKS) 1851 St Lukes, Middlesex


Census 1861

Address: 11, Seward Street, St LukeCounty: London

BENNETT, William Head Married M 39 1822 Smith Middlesex
BENNETT, Clara Wife Married F 33 1828 Middlesex
BENNETT, William Son M 10 1851 Scholar Middlesex
BENNETT, Eliza Daughter F 8 1853 Middlesex
BENNETT, John Son M 6 1855 Middlesex
BENNETT, Margaret Daughter F 4 1857 Middlesex
BENNETT, Matilda Daughter F 1 1860 Middlesex

Address: 11, Seward Street, St LukeCounty: London

BENNETT, John Head Married M 43 1818 Master Smith Employs 3 Men 1 Boy Middlesex
BENNETT, Rebbecca A Wife Married F 34 1827 Middlesex
BENNETT, John G Son M 10 1851 Scholar Middlesex
BENNETT, William E Son M 8 1853 Scholar Middlesex
BENNETT, Rebecca H Daughter F 3 1858 Middlesex
DODDS, Harriet Wifes Sister Unmarried F 49 1812 Book Folder
Portsmouth

and yet another household at the same address:

Address: 11, Seward Street, St Luke County: London

FORD, Alfred L Father In Law Married M 36 1825 Printer Compositer
Middlesex
FORD, Mary A Wife Married F 38 1823 Bonnet Molder Middlesex
SHEPHERD, Rebecca Daughter F 13 1848 Scholar Middlesex
SHEPHERD, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar Middlesex
SHEPHERD, John Son M 4 1857 Scholar Middlesex
FORD, Mary A P Daughter F 1 1860 Middlesex

I can't see a direct link between this last household and the two Bennett households as yet; Mary Ann's maiden name appears to be Preston (according to the actual register image) on her marriage to Alfred Ford:

Name: Mary Ann Shepheard - widow
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Age: 38
Spouse Name: Alfred Lane Ford
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 May 1859
Parish: Shoreditch St James
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: John Priston (Preston) builder<<<<<<<<
Spouse Father Name: William Ford
Register Type: Parish Register

WOW!!! I never knew I was going to get so much information! It is AMAZING!!! I never knew there was soooooooooooo much info out there...!!! This family research is brill, seeing ALL those names/surnames/dates etc...!!!

The 1868 Greenwich marriage Margee mentioned on page one can now be ruled out, as Elizabeth Ann Lockett and William Bennett did not marry each other.

(Deptford St Paul comes under Greenwich reg district).

Marriages Sep 1868
Bennett William Greenwich 1d 980
Buck Frances Greenwich 1d 980
Lockett Elizabeth Ann Greenwich 1d 980
Webb William Greenwich 1d 980


Name: Elizabeth Ann Lockett<<<<<<<<
Spouse Name: William Webb<<<<<<<<
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Jul 1868
Parish: Deptford St Paul
Borough: Lewisham
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Webb
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Frances Buck<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Name: William Bennett<<<<<<<<<<<
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Jul 1868
Parish: Deptford St Paul
Borough: Lewisham
Spouse Father Name: William Bennett
Register Type: Parish Register

Baptism:

Name: Rosina Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Nov 1820
Father's Name: John Bennett
Mother's name: Mary Ann Bennett
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address Union St. Father a blacksmith.

Rather late Baptism for Matilda.

Birhdate is recorded as Nov 11th 1824

Name: Matilda Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 May 1836
Father's Name: John Bennett
Mother's name: Mary Ann Bennett
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Can't read address, but not Seward St. Father John is a smith.

John and Rebecca were at 11 Seward St in 1851, when William and Eliza were living in Nelson street as posted previously.

Address: 11, Seward Street, St Lukes, Finsbury County: Middlesex

BENNETT, John Head Married M 33 1818 Smith
Clerkenwell, Middlesex
BENNETT, Rebecca Wife Married F 24 1827
London
BENNETT, Richard Son M 0 (7 MOS) 1851
St Luke, Middlesex

They were sharing No 11 with another household, that of William and Rosina Ludford.

There was a Rosina Bennett at the address in the 1841 census. Rosina married William Ludford.

Name: Rosina Bennett
Spouse Name: William Ludford - watchmaker
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 May 1842
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John Bennett - smith
Spouse Father Name: William Ludford - watchmaker
Register Type: Parish Register

Rosina's address given as 11 Seward St. Witnesses were John Bennett and Matilda Bennett..

Is this the Bennetts in 1841 in Seward St???

Remember ages of over 15s were rounded down to nearest 5 years in census 1841.

Address: Seward Street, St Luke, Old Street, Finsbury County: Middlesex

BENNETT, Mary F 50 1791 Middlesex<<<<
KING, Margaret F 75 1766 Middlesex<<<<
BENNETT, John M 20 1821 Middlesex<<<<<
BENNETT, Rosina F 20 1821 Middlesex
BENNETT, William M 15 1826 Middlesex<<<<<
BENNETT, Matilda F 15 1826 Middlesex
KING, Emma F 20 1821 Middlesex<<<<
FOOT, John M 15 1826
WILLSON, Rosamond F 40 1801
WILLSON, William M 15 1826 Middlesex
WILLSON, James M 9 1832
WILLSON, Alfred M 8 1833
WILLSON, Elizabeth F 6 1835
SMITH, John M 30 1811 Middlesex
SMITH, Caroline F 25 1816
READING, Isaac M 25 1816 Middlesex
READING, Maria F 20 1821 Middlesex

John Bennett is a smith, William an apprentice smith.

Given the presence of two people with the surname King, could this be the marriage of John and William Benjamin's parents, John [Benjamin] and Mary Ann?

Name: Mary Ann King
Spouse Name: John Bennett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Apr 1815
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Register

In the light of the information re the two Bennett households sharing 11 Seward St in 1861.

Name: John George Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1851
Father's Name: John Benjamin Bennett
Mother's name: Rebecca Mary Bennett
Parish or Poor Law Union: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address 11 Seward St. Father a smith.

????

Name: William Benjamin Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1822
Father's Name: John Bennett
Mother's name: Mary Ann Bennett
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father a smith.

Edit:

Later noticed this entry for the same day, for brother John:

Name: John Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1822
Father's Name: John Bennett
Mother's name: Mary Ann Bennett
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father a smith. Address was Laystall Street.

John was born 15th Nov 1817.

William Benjamin was born 19th Sept 1821

Incidently, I think this might be the marriage of John Bennett and Rebecca, as a 59 single woman described as 'sister' called Harriet Dodds was listed with John and Rebecca's household at 11 Seward St in 1871.

Name: John Benjamin Bennett - coach smith<<<<<<<
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Rebecca Mary Dodds
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 May 1850
Parish: Finsbury St Barnabas
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John Benjamin Bennett - coachsmith<<<<<<
Spouse Father Name: William Dodds - cordwainer
Register Type: Parish Register

Both bride and groom gave Seward St as their address, Harriet Dodds was one witness, George Edward Dodds the other.

EDIT: William Edward Bennett born Nov 1852, and Rebecca Harriet Bennett born
July 1857, were both baptised on 28 Aug 1859. Their parents were listed as John and Rebecca Mary Bennett, and their address given as 11 Seward St. Father a smith.

Name: Rebecca Harriet Bennett
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Aug 1859
Father's Name: John Bennett
Mother's name: Rebecca Mary Bennett
Parish or Poor Law Union: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

GlitterBaby posted a death for William Benjamin Bennett registered in the first qtr of 1869, on page 1 of this thread, which would tally with Eliza being a widow in census 1871.

I checked the image for census 1871, and found she was living at No 11 Seward St, the same address as the family were living at in 1861.

There was another household sharing No 11; it comprised 53 yr old John Bennett born Clerkenwell, wife Rebecca, son William and daur, also a Rebecca. Father and son were smiths. A sister called Harriet Dodds was living with John and Rebecca's family.

EDIT: I also went back and checked the image for census 1861. Both households were living at 11 Seward St then, too. John and Rebecca's family were at the bottom of one census page, with an older son, John G, plus Harriet Dodds. William, 'Clara' and family were at the top of the next census page.

Just one last thing Kucinta: what happened to William Benjamin Bennett, he must have died, or did he also remarry ?

Ok, thanks for that too Kucinta. Yes, your right, I'm sure! Not far to move... :-)

People often moved around within the same street , perhaps as better accomodation or cheaper rents elsewhere came up.

Ok thanks for ALL this info, especially to you Kucinta, you have been very helpful, brill actually! On the Birth C has them down as living at number 10 Seward St, so, where did this number 11 Seward St come from, perhaps they moved next door... lol All for now, very interesting!!! I've learned a lot tonight!

Yes, Eliza either married or lived with William Benjamin Bennett as his wife, then married William Barton in 1874 in the marriage I posted on page one.

I believe William Benjamin Bennett either married or at least lived as man and wife and raised a family with Eliza Ann Lockett, daughter of John Lockett a hatter and his wife named Sarah.

i believe that the Sarah Collins-John Lockett marriage is a good possibilty with regard to timing of the births of the children of John the hatter, and also location, but can't be totally certain.