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Fanny - my great grandmother - appears to have been born in Tattenhall, Staffs, 1868. In the 1871 census she appeared to be in the care of grandmother Sarah Timmons (56) who was also born in Tattenhall. They lived at 65 The Hill. Sarah Timmons looks to have become Sarah Law, since in 1891 she was living in Ormes Lane, Tattenhall. Fanny (then 23 and a dcressmaker) lived there along with William Morgan (my great grandfather). They were married in 1891. In 1881 I believe Fanny was in North Hill Penitentiary, Hornsey, Middlesex. She was 13. Her mother's name doesn't appear in the records. If anyone can fill in any of the obvious gaps I'd be grateful. And there are many,many other gaps to be filled.

Name: Fanny Crutchley Shelvoke
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Feb 1868
Christening Place: TETTENHALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Lucy Shelvoke
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02370-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1040884
Reference ID: item 6 p 170

Unless Sarah Timmons had remarried then one of her daughters would be a Timmons who married a Shelvoke.
Have you looked for any possible marriages or found Sarah Timmons on earlier census

Edit No her mum was the Shelvoke who married a Timmons marriage ref posted .

her birth .

Name: Fanny Crutchley Shelvoke
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1868
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 444

Name: Fanny Crutchley Shelvoke
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1891
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 829
spouse William Morgan

will name her father .if known

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Barker John Wolverhampton 6b 931
Lathe George Wolverhampton 6b 931
Preston Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 931
Shelvoke Lucy Wolverhampton 6b 931xxxxxxxxx

Name: Lucy Shelvoke
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1871
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 931

married John Barker or George Lathe

so was she in fact single ??
name: Lucy Shelvoke
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1845
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 17
Page: 307


here is the Timmons connection

1861 census

Name: Lucy Shelooke
[Lucy Shelvoke]
[Lucy Shelvoke]
[Lucy Timmins]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Timmins
Mother's name: Sarah Timmins
Gender: Female
Where born: Portabello, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 1990
Folio: 105
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Timmins 45
Sarah Timmins 46
Emma Shelvoke 19
Lucy Shelvoke 15

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1990; Folio: 105; Page: 26; GSU

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Name: Lucy Laythe
Age (Original): 34
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1847
Birthplace: Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Address: 2 Court Duke St
Event Place: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341671
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2804 / 69
Page Number: 24
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head George Laythe M 29 Coven, Staffordshire, England
Wife Lucy Laythe F 34 Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Son Albert Laythe M 9 W Hpton, Staffordshire, England
Son Walter Laythe M 7 Hanley Potteries
Daughter Lucy Laythe F 0 W Hpton

is with the Crutchley's in 1851

name: Lucy Shelhook
[Lucy Shelvoke]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Visitor
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Willenhall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 2018
Folio: 289
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Crutchley 30
Bethsheba Crutchley 28
Edwin Billingham 9 son in law
Edward Steadman 28 lodger
John Corser 32lodger
Lucy Shelvoke 5

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2018; Folio: 289; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87421.

1871 England Census
about Lucy Shelroke
Name: Lucy Shelroke
[Lucy Shelvoke]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Potobells, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Brewood
Ecclesiastical parish: Coven
Town: Coven
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Penkridge
Sub-registration district: Brewood
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 2923
Folio: 16
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Brooke Chambley 39
Sarah Ann Chambley 31
Lucy Shelroke 24

her mum had remarried
Name: Sarah Shelvoke
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1859
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 629

spouse Joseph Timmins

I should say it is a case of the same thing that happened to one of my gt grandparents. The second name being the fathers surname and she was born out of wedlock. There is only the mothers name on the baptism which usually means she was base born.

Best to buy her birth cert.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Fanny Crutchley Shelvoke
Name: Fanny Crutchley Shelvoke
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1868
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 444

parents:Thomas Crutchley, Lucy

nameSarah Crutchley************************
genderFemale
christening date28 Aug 1814
christening placeTETTENHALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
birth date
birthplace
death date
name note
race
father's nameThomas Crutchley
father's birthplace
father's age
mother's nameLucy*****************
mother's birthplace
mother's age
indexing project (batch) numberC02370-6
system originEngland-ODM
gs film number1040884
reference id

Thanks for all your speedy replies. What d'you reckon about the penitentiary angle? And the fact that Sarah (her grannie) changed her surname between the ages of 56 and 76?

Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
LAW Edward Wolverhampton 6b 618
TIMMINS Sarah Wolverhampton 6b 618


1881 England Census
Civil parish: Tettenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Ormeslane
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2788; Folio: 59; Page: 13;

Edward Law 73 Tettenhall, Staffordshire Head M Ag Lab
Sarah Law 67 Wolverhampton Compton, Staffordshire Wife M

Thanks for that. Still trying to trace Fanny Shelvoke, who was Fanny Shelooke in the 1871 census, when she lived with just Sarah Timmins. Can't find her in the 1881 census, which makes me think I'm doing something wrong or not looking everywhere on Genes Reunited website. Shelvoke not a popular name, either. Sorry if I seem a bit of a no-hoper, but as you can tell I'm new at all this looking for ancestors lark

1881 census. This is probably the person in North Hill you are looking for.

SHELFORD, Fanny Penitant Single F 13 1868 Tottenhall Wood, Staffordshire

Piece: 1379 Folio: 99 Page: 82 Registration District: Edmonton Civil Parish: Hornsey Municipal Borough:
Address: "north Hill Penitentiary", Hornsey County: Middlesex

That explains a lot, Pam. Thanks. Well, it explains why it's so difficult finding Shelvoke when it's spelled Shelvooke, Shelvok and now Shelford. Do you happen to know what a penitant was? I assume a waif and stray which if true is a bit odd because grannie Sarah (Timmins/Law) had her living with her when she was three and again when she was 23. That bit in between becomes something of a mystery