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Sorry for late reply Mary. Many thanks for the info.That has answered my query. Thought it odd that the name Bumstead came up on their marriage cert and she was a Last. Very confusing. I can now put all the names on my tree without wondering if they were the legit ones, in more ways than one!
Thanks again
Janet

John Bumstead 1828 and Betsy last 1829
Married A/M/J 1849 V12 P 729

Fanny Bunstead last baptised 2/12/1848 Witnesham Suffolk.

So she was born before there marriage.

1911 Charles and Fanny had 5 children all living,but on previous census returns it shows more.
But it looks as though they had children before they married.
1871 together but didn't marry until 1878!

Maryb.

I have received the birth certificate for my grandfather Frederick Charles King (18/1/1887) which states: father Charles King (Railway Porter) and mother Fanny King formerly Bumstead, but on their marriage certificate (8/12/1878)she is named as Fanny Last and a spinster, but one of the witnesses is a John Bumpstead. Perhaps she changed her name? Charles was a railway platelayer on marriage cert and was a widower, so looks like the right one. Some other info I have obtained says he had children from a previous marriage, but they don't know the name of his first wife.

I have ordered birth and death cert for Frederick and marriage for Charles and Fanny, hope these can help my tree and I will let you know if these are correct.. I went on GR to find the info you have kindly found for me and can't find any of them on the census,have you found them on other websites?If so which ones?

Janet we would like to know when you get the cert please?

Thank you Mel

Janet

when you use the GRO website you have to register .free then follow the instructions on ordering , Dont forget to tick the box that asks if the GRO ref is known the use the re that I posted for the birth ie

Name: Frederick Charles King
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887 XXXXX
Registration district: Bosmere XXXXXXXX
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a XXXXXX
Page: 763 XXXXXXX




Have marked with XXXXX the GRO refs needed for each box

Thank you Mel I have lots of info on Dennis and Alice. That line was a lot easier to trace!

Have you got Dennis's marriage to Alice?

Well that Charles that we have been putting up on the 1891 is a Ship Yard Labourer which would fit.

Father's occupation on marriage certificate was shipwright. Maud's father was Dennis George Durrant and he was a fisherman. I have traced a lot of her family as they were mostly all local to me.

Thank you Shirley. I know they can be expensive. I shall go on that website. Thanks everyone.

1881 census
Name: Lilly King
Age (Original): 1
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1880
Birthplace: G Blakenham, Suffolk, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: Cottage
Event Place: Great Blakenham, Suffolk, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341450
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1862 / 42
Page Number: 14
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Charles King M 35 Sutton, Suffolk, England
Wife Fanny King F 30 Witnesham, Suffolk, England
Daughter Ellen King F 10 Middleton, Suffolk, England
Daughter Jane King F 9 Weely, Essex, England
Daughter Maude King F 3 Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Daughter Lilly King F 1 G Blakenham, Suffolk, England
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1881," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQS6-LNC : accessed 13 Mar 2013), Lilly King in entry for Charles King, 1881.

Janet what was his fathers occuption on the marriage cert please?

Who was Maud's father?

Thank you people again. I do believe he had a brother named Ernest so this may be him. I did get birth date from death index as well as from my mother. Will now try and track down some certificates. I might be on the right path thanks to you all. That side of my tree has been bare for some time.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Charles King
Name: Charles King
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1878
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1364



Charles King Oct-Nov-Dec 1878 Ipswich Suffolk


Fanny Last Oct-Nov-Dec 1878 Ipswich Suffolk

Janet ,when you say will contact companies to to the cert only buy it from the GRO .

www.gro.gov.uk cost £9.25

Dont go elsewhere as you will pay much more

they moved to Essex when he was young
Name: Frederick King
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles King
Mother's name: Fanny King
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Blakenham, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Wivenhoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Wivenhoe
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:High Street, Malton Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lexden
Sub-registration district: Wivenhoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1413
Folio: 8
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles King 45 occ labourer in shipyard
Fanny King 39
Maud King 12
Lily King 11
Ernest King 9
Florence King 5
Frederick King 4

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1413; Folio: 8; Page: 8; GSU roll: 6096523.

Probably right. Just because he lived there it doesn't mean to say he was born there! I shall see if I can get the birth certificate for that one, even if it eliminates that birth reg.Thanks for your help.I shall now try and contact companies for that. Will let you know if I am lucky.

Is this where you got his birth date from please?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Frederick Charles King
Name: Frederick Charles King
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1887
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1982
Age at Death: 95
Registration district: Waveney
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10
Page: 2645

parents 1911 if 1901 census correct
KING, Charles Head Married M 67 1844 School Caretaker Suffolk Sutton VIEW
KING, Fanny Wife Married32 years F 62 1849 Suffolk Witnesham VIEW
KING, Ernest Samuel Son Single M 27 1884 Dealer In Fish Suffolk Claydon VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 10333

Reference: RG14PN10333 RG78PN545 RD199 SD1 ED11 SN83

Registration District: Lexden

Sub District: Wivenhoe

Enumeration District: 11

Parish: Wivenhoe

Address: Malting Yard High Street Wivenhoe

County: Essex