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Matthew and Jemima Cutting, Norfolk

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BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 10:35

I am looking for assistance or other researchers who might be interested in the Cutting family of Norfolk. In particularly I am trying to find out what happened to Matthew and Jemima.

Here are the details
Matthew Cutting, born about 1839 in Grimstone, Norfolk married Jemima Lowis Kirk born about 1837 in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire. They married in 1857 and had many children: - Mary Jane (1858), Walter Tennant (1860) Alfred (1863) Harriet Tennant (1865) Eliza Tennant (1868) Matthew Tennant (1870) Fanny Tennant (1871).

I have them in the 1861 and the 1871 Census but I cannot find any record of them after that. I am keen to try and discover if they died, moved or emigrated. I know one of the children, Alfred ended up in British Columbia and Mary Jane ended up in Utah.

Many thanks for any ideas or connections.

1861 CENSUS:

Name: Jemima Cutting
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matthew Cutting
Gender: Female
Where born: Elm, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Wisbech
Town: Wisbech
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Wisbech
Sub-registration district: Wisbech
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 1049
Folio: 51
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Cutting 22
Jemima Cutting 23
Mary J Cutting 2
Walter Cutting 1

1871 CENSUS

Name: Mathew J Cutting
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jemima L Cutting
Gender: Male
Where born: Grimston, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Washington
Town: Watlington
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Downham
Sub-registration district: Wiggenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 1866
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew J Cutting 32
Jemima L Cutting 33
Mary J Cutting 12
Walter T Cutting 11
Alfred S Cutting 8
Harriet T Cutting 5
Eliza T Cutting 3
Mathew T Cutting 1

safc

safc Report 27 Feb 2013 10:44

????

Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
CUTTING Jemima 43 Caistor 7a 410

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 10:48

Maybe. It's the only death I can find but I've got no evidence they moved there. Perhaps ordering the certificate may end up helping. If she died in 1881 Matthew should still show up close to Caistor in the 1881 census I would think but I haven't been able to find him. Thanks for your interest.

safc

safc Report 27 Feb 2013 10:51

name: Mary Jane Haith Janes
gender: Female
burial date: 07 Dec 1932
burial place:
death date: 04 Dec 1932
death place: Salt Lake, Salt Lake, Utah
age: 74
birth date: 02 Jul 1858
birthplace: London, England
occupation: At Home
race: White
marital status: Widowed
spouse's name: Fred Janes
father's name: Mathew Cutting
father's birthplace: England
mother's name: Jemima L. Kirk
mother's birthplace: England
indexing project (batch) number: B58000-8
system origin: Utah-EASy
source film number: 26566

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 10:53

Thanks. Mary Jane is one of the children. She and her brother Alfred both moved to the USA but I can't find Matthew or Jemima there.

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 27 Feb 2013 10:56

1881 the other family members?????

1881 census transcription details for: 19, Oliver St, Great Grimsby
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3271
Folio: 83
Page: 33
Reg. District: Caistor
Sub District: Great Grimsby
Parish: Great Grimsby
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 19, Oliver St, Great Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HAITH, Charles Head Married M 27 1854 General Labourer
Barton, Lincolnshire
HAITH, Mary J Wife Married F 23 1858
London, Middlesex
HAITH, Fanny H Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
HAITH, Mary A Daughter Single F 3 1878
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CUTTING, Eliza Sister Single F 13 1868 Unemployed
Peterboro, Northamptonshire
CUTTING, Matthew Brother Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Bourn, Lincolnshire
CUTTING, Alfred Brother Single M 18 1863 Rope Spinner
Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire
CUTTING, Walter Brother Single M 21 1860 Rope Spinner
Somerstown, Middlesex

George

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 11:03

This is great. I think you are on the money. It looks like the siblings went to live with their sister Mary Jane and this would fit with Jemima dying in Caistor as suggested above. I wonder what happened to their father Matthew? Thanks again.

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 11:15

A widower Matthew Cutting marries Martha Fielding in 1882 but it is in Leeds. Seems unlikely but maybe??

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 11:23

I realise I'm answering my own question here but for completeness I think this is Matthew Cutting marrying in Leeds in 1882 as they are both boot makers. Still I can't find him on the 1881 census or afterwards.

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 27 Feb 2013 11:43

Dont know if you have this from Ancestry.West Yorkshire Marriages


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Matthew Cutting
Name: Matthew Cutting
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 43
Marriage or Bann Date: 6 Nov 1882
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Father's Name: William Cutting
Spouse's Name: Martha Ann Fielding
Spouse's Father's Name: Joshua Taylor


I can send you the original image of the marriage

George

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 27 Feb 2013 11:51

Thanks George for the kind offer but I found the original on line. I think that is the Matthew Cutting I'm after. It's odd that I cannot find him anywhere on the 1881 England census or his death or burial.

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 28 Feb 2013 03:44

Any clues on looking for a bootmaker who lived in Woodhouse Lane, Leeds in 1882 called Matthew Cutting?

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 04:04

Martha in 1881 living in Woodhouse lane

1881 England Census
about Martha Ann Fielding
Name: Martha Ann Fielding
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Fielding
Gender: Female
Where born: Ovendon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 114 Woodhouse Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
Henry Fielding 37
Martha Ann Fielding 38
Clara Fielding 14
Harry Fielding 11
Edgar Fielding 10

Her husbands death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Fielding
Name: Henry Fielding
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1882
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 247 (click to see others on page)

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 04:19

Ummmm If it was the same woman she has gone back to her previous husbands name

1891 England Census
about Martha A Fielding
Name: Martha A Fielding
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Evandon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool

Martha A Fielding 45
Clara Fielding 24
Harry Fielding 10
Edgar Fielding 18
George Hogg 79


jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 04:28

Her first marriage

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Henry Fielding
Name: Henry Fielding
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 14 Dec 1861
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: James Fielding
Spouse's Name: Martha Ann Taylor
Spouse's Father's Name: Joshua Taylor

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Feb 2013 04:50

well, the father's name on that marriage is the same as the one posted earlier for the marriage to Matthew ......... so it does look like the same person!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Feb 2013 04:58

According to a Public Family Tree on ancestry .................

Matthew's full name was



Matthew TENNANT CUTTING
Birth 6 Nov 1837 in Brancaster, Norfolk, England


Parents

William CUTTING 1796 –
Mary Jane TENNANT 1800 –


Siblings

Adelaide Sarah CUTTING
Mary Ann CUTTING
Samuel MURRELL CUTTING
William CUTTING
Eleanor CUTTING 1823 –
Mark CUTTING 1829 –
Matthew TENNANT CUTTING 1837 –

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Feb 2013 05:21

????????

from ancestry



weird!!!


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Matthew Tennant Cutting

Name: Matthew Tennant Cutting
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862
Registration district: Wisbech
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 420

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Feb 2013 08:24

(might be the below Sylvia)

Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 12 Mar 1862
Forename Matthew Tennent
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname CUTTING
Age 2m
Abode Ryan Street

(from below link)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 11 Jan 1862
BaptismDate 05 Mar 1862
Forename Matthew *
FatherForename Matthew *
MotherForename Jemima
FatherSurname CUTTING
MotherSurname
Abode Ryan Street
FatherOccupation Shoemaker

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place West Lynn
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 164
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Oct 1870
Forename Matthew Tennent
FatherForename Matthew
MotherForename Jemima
FatherSurname CUTTING
MotherSurname
Abode West Lynn
FatherOccupation Shoemaker

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 28 Feb 2013 12:36

Matthew Tennant Cutting definitely looks like Matthew Cutting Snr and Jemima's son. It's odd that Matthew T Cutting appears on the 1871 census (see first post). Maybe they named a son with the same name as a child who died earlier. Still no luck finding the death of Matthew Cutting Snr though.