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Ian
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26 Feb 2013 23:00 |
Hi All. Arthur Rose was my grandfather on my mothers side Born abt 1892, lived most of his adult life in Flaxby nr Knaresborough. Having traced my relatives (mostly mothers side from devon) i come to a stop with him. As I remember he is mixed somehow with the family Vollans (photographers in Knaresborough) but I have no surviving relatives that can shed any light here, so If anyone has any ideas It would be great. Im a bit of a novice here! Thanks. Ian
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KathleenBell
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26 Feb 2013 23:05 |
There is this one on the 1911 census:-
1911 census transcription details for: 96 Dewsbury Road Wakefield
PrintClose National Archive Reference: RG14PN27398 RG78PN1567 RD504 SD4 ED22 SN375 Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: Wakefield Parish: Wakefield Enum. District: 22 Address: 96 Dewsbury Road Wakefield County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROSE, Emily Head Widow F 61 1850 Stoke Ash Suffolk ROSE, George Son Single M 32 1879 Coal Miners Dateler Wakefield Yorkshire ROSE, Herbert Son Single M 29 1882 Coal Miner Hewer Wakefield Yorkshire ROSE, James Son Single M 27 1884 Coal Miner Hewer Wakefield Yorkshire ROSE, Harry Son Single M 23 1888 Worsted Warper Wakefield Yorkshire ROSE, Ernest Son Single M 21 1890 Fitters Labourer Wakefield Yorkshire ROSE, Arthur Son Single M 19 1892 Crucible Finisher Wakefield Yorkshire
Do any of these names ring a bell, or did your grandfather name any of his children after any of the brothers and sisters on this census?
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KathleenBell
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26 Feb 2013 23:07 |
Do you know your grandmother's name? Their marriage certificate should name Arthur's father (if he knew his father).
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patchem
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26 Feb 2013 23:25 |
Have you got your Mother's birth certificate, and her parents' marriage certificate? You do not need relatives with memories, you need certificates.
Lived in Knaresborough, but born where? Died Knaresborough?
Added: Is this his death? Arthur Rose Birth Date: abt 1893 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 Age at Death: 40 Registration district: Wakefield Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 39
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ErikaH
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26 Feb 2013 23:30 |
Only one marriage for an Arthur Rose in Knaresborough district
Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)
Rose Arthur N Wadsworth Knaresbro 9a 226 Wadsworth Mary Rose Knaresbro 9a 226
Born in Oxfordshire..................
Births Dec 1892 (>99%) Rose Arthur Norman Headington 3a 766
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26 Feb 2013 23:34 |
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Person: ROSE, Arthur Norman Address: 5 Tennyson Road Small Heath B'ham
ROSE, George Frederick Head Married M 49 1862 Wesleyan Methodist Minster Glossop Derbyshire VIEW ROSE, Laura Amelia Wife Married22 years F 49 1862 Stafford Staffs VIEW ROSE, Arthur Norman Son Single M 18 1893 Theological Student Oxford Oxon VIEW ROSE, Cecil Herbert Son Single M 15 1896 School Newlyn Penzance Cornwall VIEW ROSE, Ethel Marguerite Daughter Single F 20 1891 Horwich Bolton Lancs VIEW SAVIN, Annie Servant Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Bletchington Oxon
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ErikaH
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26 Feb 2013 23:35 |
Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) Jones Elizabeth Ann St. Asaph 11b 577 ROSE George Frederick St.Asaph 11b 577 TAYLOR Laura Amelia St. Asaph 11b 577 TINMAN William Samuel St. Asaph 11b 577
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26 Feb 2013 23:39 |
Is this your grandfather's marriage, as she is from Devon? Marriages Dec 1916 Rose Arthur Ryles E. Stonehouse 5b 620 Ryles Alice M Rose E. Stonehouse 5b 620
Added: (3 daughters born Knaresborough)
Added; Alice is in Ian's tree Births Sep 1895 Ryles Alice Mary E. Stonehouse 5b 283
? Alice Mary Rose Birth Date: 22 Jul 1895 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1982 Age at Death: 86 Registration district: Leeds Inferred County: West Yorkshire Volume: 05 Page: 0214
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Ian
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27 Feb 2013 07:16 |
Hi All, thanks for the replies. My mother who is still living but has very little memory after an accident remembers my grandfather setting off early on his bicycle and coming back late and saying he was visiting family. She also remembers that the Vollans family were always regarded as "family" and this must come from my grandfathers side as my Grandmothers side are all from Devon E Stonehouse area. He was serving in WW1 as sail-maker on warship :-) and fought in battle of Jutland, on HMS Birmingham?? or Coventry?? (not been this direction yet). He Married my grandmother in Devon and after the war settled in Flaxby. Alice Mary Ryles being her Maiden name. They had 4 daughters together in Flaxby my mother being the youngest. This part is in the Thompsons Family Tree (hope its available to see). There was always a family rumour that he was born out of wedlock :-0 or some similar scandal :-D but how true it is I dont know. He died also in Flaxby, was born (abt 1892 I think in Knaresborough area but also not 100%. I remember his funeral so must have been in 70,s
If I think of anything else I will repost, Thanks all once again! this seems a bit of puzzle / scandal. Hope I can live it down ;-)
rgds to all. Ian
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27 Feb 2013 10:54 |
Possible family MarriageFinderâ„¢: Esther Elizabeth Rose married Arthur Vollans Name: ROSE, Esther Elizabeth Registration district: Great Ouseburn County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1889 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume no: 9A Page no: 141
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ErikaH
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27 Feb 2013 11:03 |
You need to get the 1916 marriage cert if you wish to build an accurate tree
And...........a little tip.
It helps us to help you if you give us all your info when you first ask for assistance.
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ErikaH
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27 Feb 2013 11:19 |
If he died after 1969, his birthplace and DOB will be on the death cert....assuming the person who registered the death had accurate details
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27 Feb 2013 14:50 |
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Person: VOLLANS, Esther Elizabeth Address: Ribston Little Wetherby VOLLANS, Arthur Head Married M 42 1869 Garden Labourer Yorkshire Eserick VIEW VOLLANS, Esther Elizabeth Wife Married21 years F 41 1870 Yorkshire Pickhill VIEW VOLLANS, Annie Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1899 School Yorkshire Ribston VIEW VOLLANS, Emily Mary Daughter F 10 1901 School Yorkshire Ribston VIEW VOLLANS, John Son M 5 1906 School Yorkshire Ribston VIEW VOLLANS, Alicia Daughter F 3 1908 Yorkshire Ribston VIEW VOLLANS, Noel Son M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Yorkshire Ribston
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27 Feb 2013 14:52 |
1881 head John Rose M 32 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England wife Mary Rose F 30 Boltby, Yorkshire, England daughter Martha A Rose F 13 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England daughter Esther Rose F 11 Pickhill, Yorkshire, England daughter Mary Rose F 8 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England son John Rose M 4 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England son William C Rose M 3 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England son George E Rose M 1 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England
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27 Feb 2013 15:02 |
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Person: ROSE, George Ellis Address: 23 Coleridge Avenue West Hartlepool
ROSE, George Ellis Head Married M 30 1881 Commission Agent Thirsk Yorkshire VIEW ROSE, Mary Elenor Wife Married8 years F 30 1881 Maryport Cumberland VIEW ROSE, Edith Daughter F 7 1904 At School West Hartlepool Durham VIEW ROSE, Doris Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW ROSE, Herbert Son M 3 1908 West Hartlepool Durham
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27 Feb 2013 15:03 |
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Person: ROSE, William Charles Address: 28 New St Salisbury
ROSE, William Charles Head Married M 33 1878 Clothier Dealer Yorks Thirsk VIEW ROSE, Hannah Mary Wife Married14 years F 30 1881 Great Ayton Yorks VIEW ROSE, William Ellis Son M 11 1900 School Yorks Leeds VIEW ROSE, Elizabeth May Daughter F 9 1902 School Yorks Leeds VIEW ROSE, Winnifred Daughter F 8 1903 School Yorks Leeds VIEW ROSE, Emily Daughter F 6 1905 School Yorks Leeds VIEW GILL, Gwendoline Sarah Visitor Single F 18 1893 Retail Clothier Assistant Wilts Whiteparish
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27 Feb 2013 15:04 |
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Person: ROSE, John Address: Vicarage Farm Heworth York ROSE, John Head Married M 34 1877 Cattle Dealer Thirsk Yorkshire VIEW ROSE, Edith Wife F 34 1877 Stourbridge Worcester VIEW ROSE, Kathleen Daughter F 3 1908 York
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27 Feb 2013 15:05 |
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Person: ROSE, John Address: 13 Victoria Street Stockton on Tees
ROSE, John Head Married M 61 1850 Driller At Marine Engine Works Yorks Thirsk VIEW ROSE, Mary Wife Married30 years F 60 1851 Yorks Thirlby VIEW ROSE, Jennie Daughter Single F 26 1885 Shop Assistant Confectioner Yorks Thirsk VIEW ROSE, Florry Daughter Single F 17 1894 At Home Work Durham Stockton on Tees VIEW ROSE, Leonard Grandson M 4 1907 Wilts Salisbury VIEW BARKER, John Boarder Single M 58 1853 Groom Domestic Leicestershire N K
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27 Feb 2013 15:10 |
Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%) Rose Esther Elizabeth Gt.Ouseburn 9a 141 VOLLANS Arthur Gt. Ouseburn 9a 141
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27 Feb 2013 15:13 |
name: Herbert Christopher Holmes event type: Marriage event date: 04 Nov 1916 event place: , British Columbia, Canada age: 20 birth year (estimated): 1896 birthplace: Wiltsea, England marital status: Bachelor residence place: father's name: John Alfred Holmes mother's name: Jane Louise Blackburn spouse's name: Alice Maud Vollans spouse's age: 24 spouse's birth year (estimated): 1892 spouse's birthplace: Goldsborough Yorkshire, England spouse's marital status: Spinster spouse's residence place: spouse's father's name: Arthur Vollans spouse's mother's name: Elizabeth Rose gs film number: 1983976 digital folder number: 004401577 image number: 01385 affiliate film number: B11383 reference id: 16 09 127826
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