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Census's help pleeasseee ;-(

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Linda

Linda Report 18 Feb 2013 13:10

Can anyone who has access to the 1911, 1901and 1891 census's possibly help me out, I've worked my way back to 1922-ish and I am searching for (worst name to be searching) -
George Hall b 1883* in Hackney.
his wife ??
their son, Cecil George Hall b1901* Hackney
and any other members of family, occupations etc so that I can then look in the 1881 for more clue's

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Feb 2013 13:22

1891 ???
CURCHAM, Thos Head Married M 79 1812 Shop Manager
Sawley, Derbyshire VIEW
CURCHAM, Harriet Wife Married F 70 1821
Grantham, Nottinghamshire VIEW
HALL, Robt Son In Law M 46 1845 Grocers Assistant
Surrey VIEW
HALL, Marg Daughter F 46 1845 Labourer
Nottinghamshire VIEW
HALL, Arthur Grandson M 9 1882 Scholar
Shoreditch, London VIEW
HALL, Geo Grandson M 6 1885 Scholar
Shoreditch, London VIEW

Piece: 206

Folio: 152

Page: 47

Registration District: Hackney

Civil Parish: Hackney

Municipal Borough:

Address: 124, Cassland Road, Hackney, South Hackney

County: London

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Feb 2013 13:26

Look for George's marriage on freebmd to find his wife's name

Or buy the son's birth cert

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
Hall Cecil George Hackney 1b 457

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Feb 2013 13:30

How do you know where and when George was born if you don't have census details for him?

Alemap

Alemap Report 18 Feb 2013 13:38

Possible census information.
1911
HALL, George Head Married M 34 1877 Drill Instructor Army Pensioner London St Pancras
HALL, Catherine Wife Married11 years F 33 1878 Devon Ilfracombe
HALL, Cecil Son M 9 1902 London Clapton
HALL, Reginald Son M 8 1903 London St Pancras
HALL, Vincent Son M 2 1909 London St Pancras
HARRIS, Elizabeth Visitor Single F 59 1852 Devon Ilfracombe
RG number: RG14 Piece: 745 Reference: RG14PN745 RG78PN26 RD9 SD4 ED2 SN58 Registration District: St Pancras Sub District: North St Pancras Enumeration District: 2 Parish: St Pancras Address: 22 Maitland Park Road N W County: London

or

HALL, Nellie Head Widow F 36 1875 Private Means Hants Hail Weston
HALL, Cecil Son M 11 1900 School London Clapham Junct
RG number: RG14 Piece: 6405 Reference: RG14PN6405 RG78PN313 RD115 SD2 ED6 SN7 Registration District: Hungerford Sub District: Hungerford Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Little Bedwyn
Address: Little Bedwyn Hungerford County: Berkshire

Dea

Dea Report 18 Feb 2013 13:39

Can you tell us how you have worked your way back to George Hall and how you know he was born in 1883 ?

You need to give us ALL the info you have please.

Dea x

Linda

Linda Report 18 Feb 2013 13:41

Thanks Reggie...I am going by Cecil George Hall's 1922 marriage certificate, which say's his father's name was George Hall - occupation a 'timekeeper' all I know is that Cecil George was born in Hackney.

Linda

Linda Report 18 Feb 2013 13:47

Dea,
I have my father in law's birth cert, (name also George born 1923), his parents marriage cert in Cecil George and Maud Underwood in 1922, which states Cecil George's father as just George Hall a timekeeper, so I was guessing he would be born around 1883 ish?

Alemap

Alemap Report 18 Feb 2013 14:14

I think you need Cecil George's birth certificate to find his mother's name and the father's occupation when Cecil was born.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Feb 2013 14:19

Are any of the witnesses on the marriage cert related

McAlp

McAlp Report 18 Feb 2013 14:20

Is this a possible ?
George Hall
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Hackney
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1901
Regimental Number: 4220
Regiment Name: Coldstream Guards
Number of images: 7

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Feb 2013 14:24

Does Cecil George's marriage certificate in 1922 state what age he is at the time?

Kath. x

Linda

Linda Report 18 Feb 2013 14:26

Yes, I think that will be my next step...I only recieved the marriage certificate an hour ago, which states Cecil George's age in 1922 as 20 yrs old and I know he was born in Hackney, I just wanted to make sure I had the right person before purchasing another certificate.....thankyou all, for all your help, you've given me something to concentrate on while I wait another week for the certificate to arrive!...xx :-)

Dea

Dea Report 18 Feb 2013 14:28

Is this him?

Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941
useful links & resources

Last name:HALL
First names:Cecil George

Age:
Day of birth:5
Month of birth:September
Year of birth:1901

Place of birth:London

County/country of birth:London

Card type:CR10

Discharge number:

Identity certificate no.:846424

Series:BT350

Date range:1918-1921

Piece number:

Doesn't help with his parents though - you really need that birth cert.

Dea x

Linda

Linda Report 18 Feb 2013 14:30

Oops sorry Kath, just seen your post, yes it says he is 20 yrs old...I have his birth ref; as Dec 1901, so I hope its the right guy.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Feb 2013 14:35

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Cecil G Hall
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1964
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 293


This fits with the birth I posted some time ago

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Feb 2013 14:36

Who are the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

Kath. x

Linda

Linda Report 18 Feb 2013 14:38

Thanks Dea....it is indeed a possibility, I seem to remember a story from my father in law about the Merchant Navy!.....I'm going to order that birth cert right now #excited! :-D

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Feb 2013 14:41

What wasthe address on the marriage cert, please. He may have married from parents adress and it might be on the London ER.

Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Feb 2013 14:41

1901 England Census about Catherine A Hall
Name: Catherine A Hall
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Hall
Father's Name: William Yeo
Mother's Name: Mary Yes
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Clapton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 260
Piece: 218
Folio: 56
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hall 24
Catherine A Hall 23
Teresa G Hall 7 Daughter, b. Ilfracombe
William Yeo 54
Mary Yeo 55
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Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)

Hall George Barnstaple 5b 1002
Yeo Catherine Ann Barnstaple 5b 1002