One can usually resolve who wed whom pre-1912 if a local index is available. Some are online - see: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Drill down thru http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/ to: http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/your-council/register-office
Please be aware that our indexes sometimes display additional entries when displaying spouse details. This may be because an individual was using more than one surname at the time of the marriage. Another reason may be because some entries have been entered into the system using a "page number" rather than "entry number." There is more than 1 entry on a page.
1876 BROWN Dorothy J Marriage venue - St Paul, Elswick Register No./Entry No. [Page # here] EPA2/63
so there's no help here - sometimes when only page #s are used, the pages are misaligned with the GRO index. that would have resolved things here, but they're not misaligned.
1883 BROWN Dorothy J 1883 TODD Dorothy J 1883 HUNTER Robert Marriage venue - St Paul, Elswick Register No./Entry No. EPA2/377 [any # over 100 will be an entry #, and 377 > 100, so both names are there and indexed for Dorothy]
EDIT - should have said over 250, as 100 is just for births & deaths.
1888 BLACKBIRD Jane 1888 BAGGOTT Henry Marriage venue - St John the Baptist Register No./Entry No. EJD39/439
Deaths Dec 1913 (>99%) Blackbird William 72 Gateshead 10a 1089
Now if I click on the "Gateshead" link in that FreeBMD hit, then the more info "here" link, I get to see the parishes, etc in Gateshead RD. Whickham and Winlaton were 2 that were mentioned in census header info. If you don't know where they were, there's a map of 1850s parishes at http://maps.familysearch.org/ Click on Durham, then list the parishes, then Whickham. In the left col, there's a "Layers" tab that lets you overlay the civil rego district. (Winlaton's the next psh, to the W.)
Now go to: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND The collection we're interested in now is: England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
I searched for Blackbird in Winlaton - no Winlaton hits (no Winlaton hits in the marr collection either). Same result for Smith, so my guess is they've not transcribed Winlaton yet
Here's Blackbird in Whickham:
Matthew Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 13 Aug 1797 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Mary
Jane Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 21 May 1799 christening 28 Jul 1799 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent William Blackbird, Mary Smiles
Mary Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 28 Dec 1801 christening 28 Feb 1802 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent William Blackbird, Mary Smailes
Elizabeth Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 29 Sep 1805 christening 06 Apr 1806 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent William Blackbird, Mary Smailes
William Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 06 Oct 1808 christening 02 Apr 1809 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent William Blackbird, Mary Smiles
William Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 24 Apr 1820 christening 21 May 1820 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
Alice Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 01 Jan 1822 christening 10 Mar 1822 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
Mary Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 01 Nov 1823 christening 07 Dec 1823 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
Isabella Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth 25 Dec 1826 christening 24 Jun 1827 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
Elizabeth Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 27 Oct 1830 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
Jane Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 06 Nov 1836 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMTT-C9N [11 of 357 - Keelman of Derwenthaugh]
Edward Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 25 Apr 1841 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
William Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 25 Apr 1841 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella
Mary Jane Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 26 May 1852 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Isabella Blackbird
Alice Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 11 Feb 1857 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Isabella Blackbird
Edward Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 20 Apr 1864 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Isabella Blackbird
Jane Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 01 Apr 1866 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent William Blackbird, Ann
Sarah Ann Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 23 Nov 1873 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent William Blackbird, Mary Ann
Lets look at: Jane Blackbird England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening 06 Nov 1836 WHICKHAM,DURHAM,ENGLAND parent Matthew Blackbird, Isabella https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMTT-C9N
I've appended the URL for the transcription.
Now there's no free image online of the Old Parish Registers, but the Bishops Transcripts are online (but unindexed). [The BTs are the church's own backup copy of the OPRs.] The collection at FS is: England, Diocese of Durham Bishops' Transcripts ca., 1700-1900
So for June, drill down to: Durham > Whickham > 1835-1853 - you want image 11 (of 357) It says Matthew is a Keelman with abode=Derwenthaugh
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2829001
I'll leave the remaining names with you, and the unindexed Winlaton BTs.
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So sorry about last message being in CAPS, grand sons birthday plus helping son organise his wedding and phone is going mental, hope it makes sense. Poor Dorothy or what, child out of wedlock and looks like husband played away and then hopefully found happiness with Robert Hunter, searching for Info on him but it's not important x x Thank you one and all for your valued help x.
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Right, this is what I have determined, I think. Dorothy Jane Brown born 1852 had child out of wedlock with William Blackbird in 1872, she married GEORGE tODD IN 1876 HAD CHILD 1877 eLIZABETH j tODD, gEORGE tODD HAD A DAUGHTER iSABELLA IN 1880 WITH a.n. oTHER, DIED 1880 OR 1881, dOROTHY MARRIED rOBERT hUNTER IN 1883. sORRY ABOUT CAPS. RUSHING XX
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Just realised that the marriage to Todd wasn't until 1876 so the death I posted was wrong:-
Name: BROWN, Dorothy Jane Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1876 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 10B Page no: 11
MarriageFinder: Dorothy Jane Brown married one of the following people:
TODD, George<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< WATT, Francis William C WOOD, Christina
Kath. x
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Could this be Dorothy in the 1881 census if her first husband had died? :-
1881 census transcription details for: Ship Inn Yd, High St, Eston
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 4858 Folio: 70 Page: 17 Reg. District: Middlesbrough Sub District: Ormesby Parish: Eston Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Ship Inn Yd, High St, Eston County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TODD, Dorothy J Head Widow F 29 1852 Fening Down, Northumberland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< TODD, Elizabeth J Daughter Single F 4 1877 Bentrick TODD, Isabella Daughter Single F 0 1881 Eston, Yorkshire JONES, Elizabeth Cousin Single F 18 1863 Rosedale, Yorkshire Kath. x
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I would imagine that the birth certificate does not name a father but the fact that the child born in 1872 was given the middle name "Blackbird" probably indicates that his father was indeed someone with the surnname Blackbird.
This looks like the child in the 1881 census with his grandparents:-
1881 census transcription details for: 21, Railway Terrace, Heworth
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 5031 Folio: 19 Page: 35 Reg. District: Gateshead Sub District: Heworth Parish: Heworth Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, Railway Terrace, Heworth County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BROWN, Ralph Head Married M 62 1819 Coal Miner Bournmoor, Durham BROWN, Isabella Wife Married F 58 1823 Newcastle, Northumberland BROWN, John Son Single M 38 1843 Coal Miner Newcastle, Northumberland BROWN, Robert Son Single M 15 1866 Coal Miner Swalwell, Durham BROWN, William Blackbird Grand Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Newcastle, Northumberland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
And this is Dorothy with her parents in the 1871 census:-
1871 census transcription details for: Hull Street (Empty Flat), Elswick, Newcastle
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 5082 Folio: 56 Page: 29 Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Westgate Parish: Elswick Enum. District: 33 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Newcastle
Address: Hull Street (Empty Flat), Elswick, Newcastle County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BROWN, Ralph Head M 52 1819 Codurham BROWN, Isabella Wife F 48 1823 Northumberland BROWN, John Son M 28 1843 Northumberland BROWN, Ralph Son M 25 1846 Codurham BROWN, Dorothy Daughter F 19 1852 Northumberland<<<<<<<<< BROWN, William Son M 14 1857 Codurham BROWN, Frances Daughter F 12 1859 Codurham BROWN, Isabella Daughter F 8 1863 Codurham BROWN, Robert Son M 5 1866 Codurham
Kath. x
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And daughter, Sarah Ann from above probate.
Sarah Ann Blackbird Jul-Aug-Sep 1898 Gateshead Durham William Ross Jul-Aug-Sep 1898 Gateshead Durham
1901 census transcription details for: 5, Garden Square, Whitley Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4805 Folio: 7 Page: 6 Reg. District: Tynemouth Sub District: Whitley Parish: Whitley Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: Cullercoats St Pauls City/Municipal Borough: Address: 5, Garden Square, Whitley County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born ROSS, William Head Married M 33 1868 Licensed Victualler Scotland ROSS, Sarah A Wife Married F 26 1875 Swalwell, Durham ROSS, Mary G Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1901 Whitley, Northumberland HALL, Salina Servant Single F 18 1883 Servant (Domestic) Scotswood, Durham
1911 census transcription details for: Grapes Hotel Back Street Hexham Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN30926 RG78PN1768 RD561 SD2 ED17 SN5 Reg. District: Hexham Sub District: Hexham Parish: Hexham Enum. District: 17 Address: Grapes Hotel Back Street Hexham County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROSS, William Head Married M 44 1867 Wine And Spirit Turrchs (should read Merchant) Scotland Dunder (Dundee) ROSS, Sarah Ann Wife Married 12 years F 38 1873 Durham Swalwellon Four ROSS, Mary Gladys Daughter F 10 1901 School Northumberland Whitley Bay ROSS, William Blackbird Son M 7 1904 School Northumberland Whitley Bay ROSS, Kenneth Maynard Son M 5 1906 School Northumberland Whitley Bay HAMILTON, Dorothy Servant Single F 29 1882 General Servant Domestic Northumberland Hexham
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Daughter Jane from the probate above.
Civil Registration event: Marriage Print Close Name: BLACKBIRD, Jane Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1888 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 10B Page no: 98
MarriageFinder: Jane Blackbird married one of the following people:
>> BAGGOTT, Henry
BOVILL, George
O'NEIL, Margaret
With a fantastically named little boy. perhaps he didn't think so, though!
1901 census transcription details for: 1, Foundry Lane, Whickham, Swalwell To Dunston Bank Foot Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4762 Folio: 17 Page: 25 Reg. District: Gateshead Sub District: Whickham Parish: Whickham Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: Swalwall City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Foundry Lane, Whickham, Swalwell To Dunston Bank Foot County: Durham Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BAGGOTT, Henry Head Married M 33 1868 Steel Moulder Whickham, Durham BAGGOTT, Jane Wife Married F 35 1866 Whickham, Durham BAGGOTT, Henry Son M 14 1887 Engine Fitter Apprentice Whickham, Durham BAGGOTT, William Son M 12 1889 Whickham, Durham >>BAGGOTT, Blackbird Son M 5 1896 Whickham, Durham
Possible extra child?
Name: Matthew Blackbird Baggott Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1891 Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Gateshead Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 489
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