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Raymond, if you use the Search facility on the menu above you can check if anyone else has the same people in their tree. You then contact the tree owner with a view to sharing information.

Reggie had asked on page 1 if you had done that.

Reggie sorry was there a question? are you talking about, have I contacted the other GR member? if so sorry but not sure what you mean.

I think that you need to buy the marriage certificate to find out Ellen / Nelly's father's name. As she was 50 when she married Arthur it is quite likely that she had been married previously and wasn't born Howell.

When did Arthur leave his first wife please?

It may be that Arthur and Ellen had children together before he was divorced and free to marry.

You still haven't answered my question..........................

that is them the address is correct :-)

This might be them in 1961:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Arthur Collings
Year: 1961
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington North and West
Street Address: 46 Cloudsley Road.

Could be flats as there is also a Margaret Keith, James & Lily D Prickett and an Elizabeth A Thomas at the same house number.

No Ellen/Nelly Howell birth showing. So age at death wrong, or not just Ellen at birth?

Sorry, I have to go out shortly but will look back later to see if there is any progress.

Thank you roofgatherer this is a good start

Arthur Charles Collings was cremated at Islington Crematorium on 14 October 1974 (from deceasedonline).

Collings (aka Howell) Nelly (aka Ellen) cremated 4 October 1985 at Islington Crematorium, died 26 September 1985. (from deceasedonline)

So this will be her death

Name: Nelly Collings
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 1386


Name: Ellen Collings
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 1386




Not sure that they would have had children (unless they had been together for a few years before they married) as Nelly / Ellen was 50 when they married.

Any response to my last question?

You can't look for a death until you know her birth year,

Equally, she could have re-married after Arthur died

death recorded by Spouse.
helen was his first wife, my Nan, divorced.
Its Ellen Howell and or family I need to try to trace. Anything on her might do, I cant even see when see died? or any previous marriages.

Raymond

Have you tried contacting the other GR member who may possibly have Arthur in his tree?

The OP is looking for possible offspring from Arthur's second marriage in 1949 to an Ellen Howell

As this was just post-WW2, odds are that Ellen was a widow, as PH 's post would suggest. OP is getting marriage cert to find out about her.

Youve just made me chuckle Reggie, havent heard that expression for years :-D

Can anyone remember the post?

Going on Patchem' post, there are two marriages in Islington, first one in the 1920s to a Helen and the second in the 1940s to an Ellen

Are these the two wives?

Sorry, I didnt see the OP

Oh for goodness sake!!

There are some absolute cretins around...............

He is dead!!
The death was stated on the initial post.

Arthur Charles Collings
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1903
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1974
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 1532

The poster was looking for his second wife.

Who RR'd this? And WHY?

The mind boggles!

Who registered Arthur's death?

Any children he may have fathered with his second wife are your half-relatives