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Arthur was my Granddad, but was 'estranged' from the family. Born in 1904 Islington 17/12/1904, father Edwin, mother Eleanor.
Died 8/10/1974 Islington.
But what I am interested in was that he re married an Ellen Howell in 1949 Islington.
I nothing else about her, and would love to trace her/their family, as I am aware they had children, who would be my step relatives but I am desperatly tring to get hold of a photo of him, as my side of the family have nothing, can anyone help please. :-(

I'm not seeing any Collings/Howell births.

You could try "Search all Trees" to see if any members have these people in their
trees.

The marriage cert will tell you how old Ellen was when she married and if she had been married before.

Hi there, I have just ordered the marriage certificate. Suppose I need to wait until then as I don't even know her DOB. Again I have looked at 'trees' but also need her DOB. But thanks all the same.
Ray

Who registered Arthur's death?

Any children he may have fathered with his second wife are your half-relatives

Who RR'd this? And WHY?

The mind boggles!

He is dead!!
The death was stated on the initial post.

Arthur Charles Collings
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1903
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1974
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 1532

The poster was looking for his second wife.

There are some absolute cretins around...............

Oh for goodness sake!!

Youve just made me chuckle Reggie, havent heard that expression for years :-D

Can anyone remember the post?

Going on Patchem' post, there are two marriages in Islington, first one in the 1920s to a Helen and the second in the 1940s to an Ellen

Are these the two wives?

Sorry, I didnt see the OP

The OP is looking for possible offspring from Arthur's second marriage in 1949 to an Ellen Howell

As this was just post-WW2, odds are that Ellen was a widow, as PH 's post would suggest. OP is getting marriage cert to find out about her.

Raymond

Have you tried contacting the other GR member who may possibly have Arthur in his tree?

death recorded by Spouse.
helen was his first wife, my Nan, divorced.
Its Ellen Howell and or family I need to try to trace. Anything on her might do, I cant even see when see died? or any previous marriages.

Any response to my last question?

You can't look for a death until you know her birth year,

Equally, she could have re-married after Arthur died

Arthur Charles Collings was cremated at Islington Crematorium on 14 October 1974 (from deceasedonline).

Collings (aka Howell) Nelly (aka Ellen) cremated 4 October 1985 at Islington Crematorium, died 26 September 1985. (from deceasedonline)

So this will be her death

Name: Nelly Collings
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 1386


Name: Ellen Collings
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 1386




Not sure that they would have had children (unless they had been together for a few years before they married) as Nelly / Ellen was 50 when they married.

Thank you roofgatherer this is a good start

Sorry, I have to go out shortly but will look back later to see if there is any progress.

No Ellen/Nelly Howell birth showing. So age at death wrong, or not just Ellen at birth?

This might be them in 1961:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Arthur Collings
Year: 1961
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington North and West
Street Address: 46 Cloudsley Road.

Could be flats as there is also a Margaret Keith, James & Lily D Prickett and an Elizabeth A Thomas at the same house number.

that is them the address is correct :-)

You still haven't answered my question..........................