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Jeanette

Jeanette Report 29 Jan 2013 19:54

Still can't find him or mother and father after 1901.Is it possible they could have left the country or as he would have been the only child left with his parents William and Harriet if they both died was he in a home,or if William died and Harriet nee Treadgold remarried did his surname change during this marriage.if anyone out there
knows about the Rice family from Gosford Street Coventry please let me know before I go completely GAGA .Thanks Jeanette .

jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Jan 2013 20:01

1901 ? for info is this them not living in Coventry??

Name:
William J Rice

Age:
25

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1876

Relation:
Head

Spouse's Name:
Harriet Rice

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Coventry, Warwickshire
[Coventry]



Civil parish:
Walthamstow

Ecclesiastical parish:
St Saviour

Town:
Walthamstow

County/Island:
Essex

Country:
England





Name:
William F Rice

Age:
4

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1897

Relation:
Son

Father's Name:
William J Rice

Mother's Name:
Harriet Rice

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Coventry, Warwickshire
[Coventry]



Civil parish:
Walthamstow

Ecclesiastical parish:
St Saviour

Town:
Walthamstow

County/Island:
Essex

Country:
England

Household Members:


Name

Age

William J Rice 25
Harriet Rice 24
William F Rice 4
Frank H Rice 2
Sidney G Rice 1



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Jan 2013 20:03

Hi Jeanette

An idea of when and where he was born would be good.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Jan 2013 20:06

This one??

1901 England Census
about William J Rice
Name: William J Rice
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Rice
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire
[Coventry]

Civil parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 1624
Folio: 52
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
William J Rice 25
Harriet Rice 24
William F Rice 4
Frank H Rice 2
Sidney G Rice 1

Boarders....
Bert Judd 29
Alice Judd 30
Bert Judd 5
James Judd 4
Alice Judd 2


Mary

Mary Report 29 Jan 2013 20:18

1911
Son William 1898 born Coventry cycle enameler with grandparents?
Thomas Henry Rice 1852 Coventry cycle frame builder
Sarah 1854.

Wasn't dad William a cycle polisher in 1901??

Maryb.

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 29 Jan 2013 20:19

Thank you for taking the time to help in my search .these are the correct family but it's 1901 onwards where my problem is .It seems that they have vanished.William F went to live with grandparents and Sidney died but I just have no trace what soever for William Harriet and Frank.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Jan 2013 20:27

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frank Henry Rice
Name: Frank Henry Rice
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Sep 1898
Father's Name: William Francis Rice (Machinist)
Mother's Name: Harriet Amy Rice
Parish or Poor Law Union: Wandsworth St Faith
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers
Abode: 352 York Road

On the same record........

Brother: William Francis

Archives

Archives Report 29 Jan 2013 20:45

Is Frank in Birmingham in 1911 ?
Living at 2 House, 4 Court Bishop St. with Rally Rice mistrancribed as Pice on one website. Possibly Rally is Harry short for Harriet ?

Mary

Mary Report 29 Jan 2013 20:46

So was he William John 1875/6 as on marriage or William Francis?
There is no birth record for William Francis.

Maryb.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Jan 2013 21:00

The census Archives was referring to..........

???


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: RICE, Rally
Address: 4 Court 2 House Bishop Stt Birmingham

RAVNEY, William Head Married M 41 1870 Polisher Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, E A Wife Married17 years F 39 1872 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, William Son Single M 16 1895 Polisher Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, Thomas Son Single M 13 1898 Staffordshire Walsall VIEW
RAVNEY, Violet Daughter F 11 1900 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, John Son M 8 1903 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, George Son M 6 1905 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, Elizeabth Daughter F 3 1908 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RAVNEY, Edward Son M 1 1910 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RICE, Frank Boarder M 12 1899 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RICE, Rally Boarder Widow F 38 1873 Charwoman Wks Bham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 18129
Reference: RG14PN18129 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED26 SN56
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Martin
Enumeration District: 26
Parish: Birmingham
Address: 4 Court 2 House Bishop Stt Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


Looking at the image Ravney is actually..........Rooney

Mary

Mary Report 30 Jan 2013 08:33

1911 89,Acacia Road Walthamstow.
Charles henry Bayliss 1875 Bromsgrove Worcestershire
Harriett Amy 1878 Coventry married 8 years.

1922 West ham Joan G A Bayliss mum nee Treadgold.

Is there a connection here???

Maryb.

Choccy

Choccy Report 30 Jan 2013 08:40



Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Akin John W. Ham 4a 325
>>>>Baylis Charles H W.Ham 4a 325
>>>>Treadgold Harriett A West Ham 4a 325
Wright Isabella M W.Ham 4a 325


Mary

Mary Report 30 Jan 2013 08:42

Harriett A Bayliss @ 1877 died 1959 Thurock Essex 4a 760

Maryb.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2013 09:17

Frank Henry rice - Genealogy Chat - Boards - Genes Reunited
www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/.../1316033 - Cached
18 Dec 2012 ... William J Rice 25 occ cycle polisher. Harriet Rice 24. William F Rice 4 b Coventry
Frank H Rice 2. Sidney G Rice 1. Bert Judd 29. Alice Judd 30 ...


(did above 'Thread' go, can remember looking, think there was quite a bit of info. on it)

Chris :)


Deaths Sep 1903 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Rice Sidney George 2 Coventry 6d 289


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Harrie Amy Treadgold (has T on image!)
Parish: Coventry, St Peter
Baptism Date: 7 Jan 1877
Father's Name: Henry Treadgold (Watch Case Springer)
Mother's Name: Harriet Treadgold
(address, Norfolk St.)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Jan 2013 09:23

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: BAYLISS, Harriett Amy
Address: 89 Acacia Road Walthamstow

BAYLISS, Charles Henry Head Married M 36 1875 General Tinsmith Bromsgrove Worcester VIEW
BAYLISS, Harriett Amy Wife Married8 years F 33 1878 Coventry Warwick VIEW
BAYLISS, Charles Henry James Son M 5 1906 Walthamstow Essex VIEW
BAYLISS, Frederick Arthur Son M 4 1907 Nottingham Notss VIEW
BAYLISS, Maud Kathleen Daughter F 7 1904 Birmingham Warwick VIEW
BAYLISS, Rose Valentine Daughter F 2 1909 Stepney London VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9680
Reference: RG14PN9680 RG78PN514A RD188 SD10 ED6 SN37
Registration District: West Ham
Sub District: Walthamstow
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: Walthamstow
Address: 89 Acacia Road Walthamstow
County: Essex

Mary

Mary Report 30 Jan 2013 11:52

1901 William and Harriett Rice Arkley Road postcode E17


1911 Acacia Road Postcode E17.

You can see how close on map of Arkley Road E17.

Do you think they are the same Harriett guys??
Seems likely to me.

Maryb.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Jan 2013 12:41

Looks a good chance!...

Chris :)


Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
ARCHER George S Libby W. Ham 4a 575
Crossley Ethel L Rice W.Ham 4a 575
LIBBY May Archer W. Ham 4a 575
Rice Frank H Crossley W.Ham 4a 575


Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
HAYMES Isabell M Rice Coventry 6d 1578
Rice Frank H Haymes Coventry 6d 1578
Soden Dorothy Warren Coventry 6d 1578
Warren Frank Soden Coventry 6d 1578


Death
Name: RICE, Frank Henry
Registration district: [?] Nuneaton
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1970
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth:8 August 1898
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 2689


HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Jan 2013 15:01

The original thread has been deleted as far as I can tell. It popped up in my threads and then promptly disappeared...so I can only think that Jeanette deleted it and the two pages of info that had been found :-(

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 1 Feb 2013 22:49

A big fat ThankYou to all you clever people who took the time to search for me .It has been a great help ,some matched some didn't .The most positive result was finding out that Harriet re married ,It has to be the same.Only have to find Frank and William now as its obvious that Frank was not with his mother in1911.So am I looking for Frank alone as William died or are they both together .William John Rice born Coventry 1876 father Thomas mother Sarah Ann nee Manton.William last found 1901 living 53 Arkley Court .Keep looking and thank you .Jeanette.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2013 17:44

New thread
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1318789?jump=1318789

Looking for William John Rice after 1901
Born about 1876 Coventry
Father Thomas Henry Rice
Mother Sarah Ann Rice nee Manton
Married Harriet amy Treadgold she re married after 1901 so he is not married ?

Last known address 53 Arkley Court Wathomstow Essex
Can you help find his death if before 1911 or where he is living in1911 .
Thanks
Jeanette

(Would be better to continue on here)