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Hi Everyone,

I am stuck with the same family again. I Have recently heard from Nunhead Cemetery in London where William Tell Nelthropp is burried along side other relatives. I was advised that the following people were buried there

*William Tell Nelthropp (Died 01/06/1907)
*John Noble (died 24/09/1887) - Williams father in law
*Jane Nelthropp (died 27/01/1892)
*Jane Nelthropp (died 01/09/1894)
*Lydia Nelthropp (died 26/11/1896) - Williams wife
*Jane Ross (died 25/06/1917)
*Elizabeth Annie Nelthropp (died 06/11/1957)

I was aware William Nelthropp had a daughter by the name of Jane Nelthropp born 1875 but I am unsure of when she died and as you can see above there is 3 Jane's burried together.

Elizabeth Annie Nelthropp was also the daughter of William. She was born in 1879 and died in 1957 as shown above.

What I am a bit confused with is did William have more than one daughter by the name of Jane?

If you need further info about the Nelthropp family...........post it on this thread so that members can see all the information you already have.

I'ts good for you too as it keeps all the info in one place.

Prickles.

:-)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1317832

Oh jolly good.......

I see Henry and Murielle were living together before they married....

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Henry Leonard Nelthropp
Name: Henry Leonard Nelthropp
Year: 1929
County or Borough: Newham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Woolwich
Street Address: 63 Piedmont Road

With Murielle "Nelthropp"

Thank you so much PricklyHolly - Alan Nelthropp you mentioned is my grandfather

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
about Henry Leonard Nelthropp
Name: Henry Leonard Nelthropp
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1901
Departure Date: 8 Oct 1948
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Maloja
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Maloja' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: P and O
Official Number: 145437
Master: E J Parry

Last Address in UK...15 Tinturn Avenue, Westcliff-on-Sea. Occ: Engineer.



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Henry L Nelthropp
Name: Henry L Nelthropp
Spouse Name: Murielle Parrish
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1935
Registration district: Rochford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 2002



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
about Muriel Nelthropp
Name: Muriel Nelthropp (Housewife) 62
Gender: Female
Age: 62
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: Apr 1949
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Mooltan
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Mooltan' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: P and O
Official Number: 79866
Master: C H Baxter

Travelling with Alan Derek Nelthropp (Bank Clerk) age 17
Last Address in UK: 15 Tinturn Avenue, Westcliff.

Marriages Mar 1954 (>99%)
LAVER Cyril J NELTHROPP Lewisham 5d 81
NELTHROPP Kathleen A LAVER Lewisham 5d 81

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Elizabeth Annie Nelthropp
Name: Elizabeth Annie Nelthropp
Probate Date: 26 Feb 1958
Death Date: 2 Nov 1957
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

Of 28 Farley Road Catford London..Spinster...Died at St Josephs Hospice, Mare Street, Hackney, London.
To Kathleen Alice Laver (Wife of Cyril John Laver) attorney of Henry Leonard Nelthropp.
Effects: £814 17s 9d

I hadnt seen the 1851 census yet. Thank you for that :-)
With regards to William re-marrying. I was aware of this. William (son not father) married both Lydia Noble and Lizzie Juffs. Lizzie Juffs is my great great grandmother.

Possible death of William (Snr)

Jun 1840 St George Southwark 4 2_6

William Snr's death?

Deaths Jun 1840 (>99%)
NELTHORPE William St Geo Southk 4 2_6

Dea x

P.S. - Looking on another site, I think the missing ref no. is an 8

i.e. St Geo Southk 4 286.

Dea x

? Birth reg's for William and George

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: NELTHROPP, William Fell
Registration district: St. George Southwark
County: London
Year of registration: 1837
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 4
Page no: 88


Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: NELTHROPP, George Matthew
Registration district: St. George Southwark
County: London
Year of registration: 1839
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 4
Page no: 137

Lizzie remarried.........

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Lizzie M G Nelthropp
Name: Lizzie M G Nelthropp
Spouse Name: Albert T Wilson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Registration district: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 896


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Lizzie M G Wilson
Name: Lizzie M G Wilson
Birth Date: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 404

And 1841 - possibly already a widow. She has an occupation - difficult to read, possibly Glove Sewer

1841 census transcription details for: John Street, West, Christ Church, Southwark

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1083 Book/Folio: 5/24 Page: 40
Reg. District: St Saviour Union Sub District: Christ Church
Parish: Christ Church Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Southwark

Address: John Street, West, Christ Church, Southwark
County: Surrey
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NOBLE, John M 25 1816 Ireland
NOBLE, Lydia F 25 1816
NOBLE, Lydia F 2 1839 Surrey
ROSS, Wm M 25 1816 Scotland
LAING, John M 25 1816 Scotland
CARAMICHAEL, Jas M 25 1816 Scotland
HALL, Enoch M 25 1816
STRECHAN, Thos M 23 1818
STRECHAN, Barbara F 24 1817
CLARK, Eliza F 30 1811 Surrey
CLARK, Eliza Ann F 8 1833 Surrey
CLARK, Jacob Richd M 5 1836 Surrey
NELTHROPP, Jane F 29 1812
NELTHROPP, Wm M 4 1837 Surrey
NELTHROPP, George M 3 1838 Surrey
MONGER, John M 70 1771
MONGER, Elizh F 15 1826
PRINCE, Ann F 80 1761
OATES, Mary F 65 1776 Surrey

Yes he did..............


Household transcription
1911 census
Person: NELTHROPP, Lizzie Mildred Georgina
Address: 19 Burdett Avenue Westcliff on Sea

NELTHROPP, Lizzie Mildred Georgina Head Widow F 47 1864 Boarding House Keeper Woburn Sands Beds VIEW
NELTHROPP, Henry Leonard Son M 9 1902 Peckham London S E VIEW
NELTHROPP, Elizabeth Annie Stepdaughter Single F 32 1879 Book- Keeper Peckham London VIEW
JUFFS, Mary Mother Widow F 72 1839 Colmworth Bed VIEW
MYNARD, Ernestine Daisy Sister Married F 35 1876 Newport Pagnell Bucks VIEW
MYNARD, Charles George Nephew M 4 1907 Newport Pagnell Bucks VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 10126
Reference: RG14PN10126 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED14 SN191
Registration District: Rochford
Sub District: Prittlewell
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Prittlewell
Address: 19 Burdett Avenue Westcliff on Sea
County: Essex

Do you have the 1851 census. jane is already a widow

1851 census transcription details for: 4, Whitecross Street, Saint Giles Without Cripplegate, London

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1525 Folio: 214 Page: 1
Reg. District: East London Sub District: Cripplegate Parish: Saint Giles Without Cripplegate
Enum. District: 1F Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: London

Address: 4, Whitecross Street, Saint Giles Without Cripplegate, London
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
NETTTHROPP, Jane Head Widow F 38 1813 Pauper Lymington, Somerset
NETTTHROPP, William T Son M 13 1838 Shop Boy St George, Southwark
NETTTHROPP, George N Son M 12 1839 Shop Boy St George, Southwark

Hi Tara.......

Did your William remarry??........and did he die in 1907??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Lydia Julia Nelthropp
Name: Lydia Julia Nelthropp
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 540



Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
Juffs Lizzie Mirenda G Camberwell 1d 1750
Nelthropp William Tell Camberwell 1d 1750



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about William Tell Nelthropp
Name: William Tell Nelthropp
Probate Date: 15 Jun 1907
Death Date: 28 May 1907
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England

Of 38 Harders Road Peckham....Administration London to Lizzie Mirenda Georgiana Naethropp..widow.

Effects: £845 15d 10d

we aim to please :-D ;-)

And to your question previously I did have their location as surrey UK :-)

Wow, thank you both, so much information so fast! It appears Williams fathers name was the exact same as his which is why I would have got confused in my research. And now from what you have found, I can see Jane's maiden name is Hobbs

Thank you so much for your help.