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30 Dec 2012 21:35 |
Thanks all so much i never expected to find out this much info
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30 Dec 2012 08:53 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription County:London Address:10 CLEEVE BUILDINGS E C Parish:SHOREDITCH Registration District:SHOREDITCH SubDistrict:Shoreditch South Enumeration District:5 Census Reference:RG14PN1326 RG78PN46 RD16 SD1 ED5 SN211
SOLOMON KLEBENSKY 1867 44 Russia HEAD M Boot Repairer ADELAIDE KLEBENSKY 1866 45 Russia WIFE M JACK KLEBENSKY 1889 22 Aldgate, London SON S Boot Repairer ANNIE KLEBENSKY 1895 16 Stamford Hill, London DAUGHTER S Confectioners Shop Assistant ABRAHAM KLEBENSKY 1897 14 Stamford Hill, London SON S School
[marr 26 y; 7 live burths; 4 still living]
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription County:London Street:BRADY STREET Parish:WHITECHAPEL City:WHITECHAPEL CHURCH Municipal Ward:EAST Parliamentary Borough:WHITECHAPEL Registration District:WHITECHAPEL Sub-District 3A Whitechapel Church Enumeration District:2 Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:279 Folio:27 Page:25
SOLOMAN CLEBENSKI 1856 35 Russia HEAD M Boot Laster ADELAID CLEBENSKI 1863 28 Russia WIFE M JACK CLEBENSKI 1889 2 Whitechapel, London SON
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30 Dec 2012 03:59 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription County:London Address:1 PRINCELETT STREET SPITALFIELDS E Parish:SPITALFIELDS Registration District:WHITECHAPEL SubDistrict:Spitalfields Enumeration District:3 Census Reference:RG14PN1455 RG78PN51 RD18 SD1 ED3 SN284
MARKS VENICOFF 1883 28 Charkoff Nat=Russian HEAD M Cigarette Manf GOLDA VENICOFF 1885 26 Spitalfields, London WIFE M EVYLN VENICOFF 1910 1 DAUGHTER ANNIE NICHOLLS 1864 47 London SERVANT W (Domestic Servant) Good
[Marr 1 y; 1 live birth; 1 still living]
Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) DINTENFASS Jenny London C 1c 82 GALINSKY Golda London City 1c 82 HARRIS Louis London C 1c 82 VENICOFF Mark London C 1c 82
Births Jun 1910 (>99%) VENICOFF Eveline Whitechapel 1c 215
I presume Charkoff is a variant transliteration of Kharkov (in the Ukraine).
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29 Dec 2012 23:32 |
Re: Noah Blaustein 1911 Census Reference:RG14PN1094 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED21 SN400 I read his pob as Zloczow, Galacia, Austria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Galicia_and_Lodomeria has an inset map with 3 N flowing rivers (Warta, Vistula, Bug). On this map, Zloczow is just W of the source of the Bug, abt 60km E of Lwow. Ii's now in the western Ukraine and if I look up Zloczów, L'vivs'ka oblast, Ukraine on http://maps.google.com/ it takes me to Zolochiv, L'vivs'ka oblast, Ukraine which is almost midway between Lviv and Ternopil.
Maybe this is of interest: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/zloczow_surn.htm
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29 Dec 2012 12:17 |
Annie Sunasky Birth Date: abt 1861 Death Date: 20 Oct 1924 Age at Death: 63 Burial Plot: P-42 Burial Place: London, England, United Kingdom Comments: Noted on Tombstone: (MAIDEN NAME 'VENIS') <<< Other Comments: Sections A-R Cemetery: Edmonton Federation Cemetery Cemetery Burials: 16294
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29 Dec 2012 12:12 |
Cheers Kath :-D
I think Annie's probate record confirms the change name - probate granted to Marks Venis (tobacconist) who I assume is the Marks Vernicoff from the 1901 census:
Annie Sunasky Probate Date: 11 Dec 1924 Death Date: 20 Oct 1924 Death Place: Middlesex, England Registry: London, England Lived 37 Westwick gds West Kensington, died at 47 Shepherds Bush Road Hammersmith. Left £2144 9s 9d
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KathleenBell
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29 Dec 2012 11:59 |
Well done Flip - that looks right.
Kath. x
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29 Dec 2012 11:56 |
Abraham Sunasky Age in 1911: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Russia Civil parish: Spitalfields County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 82 Brick Lane, Spitalfields E Marital Status: Married Years Married: 11 Estimated Marriage Year: 1900 Occupation: TABACCONIST STATIONARY Registration district: Whitechapel Registration District Number: 18 Sub-registration district: Spitalfields ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 1462 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Sunasky 49 Anne Sunasky 49 Rosy Sunasky 24 Fanny Sunasky 19 Lilly Sunasky 7 Barney Sunasky 21 <<<<<<<
They've been married 11 years, just Lily born in London.
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29 Dec 2012 11:48 |
Think you're on to something Kath - possibly Maurice is Bernard's brother:
Morris Venicoff Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Stepson Mother's Name: Annie Sunasky Gender: Male Where born: Russia Civil parish: Spitalfields Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: added: 82 Brick Lane
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Piece: 298 Folio: 142 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Allie Sunasky 37 Annie Sunasky 36 Morris Venicoff 21 <<<<<<<<<<< Marks Venicoff 20 Rossie Venicoff 15 Barney Venicoff 12 <<<<<<<<<<< Fanny Venicoff 10 Louis Hatfstein 16 <<cousin Added - all family born Russia, children were all step-children of Allie, so must be Annie's children.
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Liz
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29 Dec 2012 11:46 |
Hove would be right as my Dad was in the brighton area
My dad was born 10th april 1919 and michael blaustein died 17th Nov 1918 so he be his father or it could be Bernard Venis!
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KathleenBell
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29 Dec 2012 11:41 |
He could have lied about his age - and marriage was legal for a 14 year old boy in 1921. (although I agree it's unlikely )
I can't find another birth in England for a Bernard Venis or Venicoff apart from the one in 1907.
Kath. x
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29 Dec 2012 11:39 |
I posted what I think is Annie's death in 1955, Hove, if you look back at the marriage records posted she was known a both Annie and Doris.
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29 Dec 2012 11:38 |
That family could be connected in some way, but that one can't be the Bernard who married in 1921.
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KathleenBell
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29 Dec 2012 11:37 |
Possible birth for Bernard:-
Name: VENICOFF, Bernard Registration district: Hackney County: London Year of registration: 1907 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 1B Page no: 448
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KathleenBell
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29 Dec 2012 11:33 |
1911 census:-
1911 census transcription details for: 128 Uxbridge Road Shep Bush W
National Archive Reference: RG14PN217 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED21 SN73 Reg. District: Fulham Sub District: North Hammersmith Parish: Hammersmith Enum. District: 21
Address: 128 Uxbridge Road Shep Bush W County: London
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
VENICOFF, Maurice Head Married M 31 1880 Stationer And Retail Tobacconist Russia VENICOFF, Lillie Wife Married F 27 1884 Cape Colony S Africa Resident VENICOFF, Reginald Son M 5 1906 VENICOFF, Bernard Son M 3 1908<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Liz
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29 Dec 2012 11:31 |
Also looking for when Annie Venis died if anyone can point me in the right direction
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Flip
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29 Dec 2012 11:27 |
Not seeing Bernard on the census though under either name Venis or Venicoff, maybe someone could try on FMP?
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Liz
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29 Dec 2012 11:21 |
Wow thank you so much for your help, this stuff is fascinating
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Flip
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29 Dec 2012 11:19 |
His stepfathers probate:
Bernard Venis Probate Date: 9 Aug 1960 Death Date: 1 Jul 1960 Death Place: London, England Registry: London, England
Of 7 Goldhawke Road Hammersmith, died St Charles hospital, Kensington. Probate to Michael Trevor Venis, antique dealer, £607 19s 10d
The death index for an age:
Bernard Venis Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1960 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Kensington Inferred County: London Volume: 5c Page: 870
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Liz
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29 Dec 2012 11:13 |
Thats fantastic thank you, am trying to find anything on Bernard Venis who could be his father but not coming up with much
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