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I have looked for John C Williams and William Williams in 1901 as for occupation you can hardly read anything on marriage cert only that John was living at what looks like Ocean St .Richard Stennifords father seems to be a labourer in Gas Works and William may be gas works or docks.Thank you

Father's occupation?

Buy his birth cert............

Look for him in 1891 census

Hello Can anyone find me a mother for John Cook Williams b. 1881 Devon he married Elizabeth Stenniford 1902 Devonport .The marriage cert says his father is a William Williams.Thank you

Thank you

These are the candidates in 1901...assuming that he was living in Devon at the time

WILLIAMS, John 1881 20 M Totnes Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Household WILLIAMS, John 1882 19 M Barnstaple Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Household WILLIAMS, John 1883 18 M Barnstaple Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Household WILLIAMS, John 1883 18 M Plympton St Mary Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Institution WILLIAMS, John 1882 19 M Plympton St Mary Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Household WILLIAMS, John 1882 19 M Plymouth Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Household WILLIAMS, John 1882 19 M Stoke-Damerel Devonshire VIEW VIEW
Household WILLIAMS, John 1883 18 M Stoke-Damerel Devonshire

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
WILLIAMS John Cook Newton A. 5b 118

Not born Exeter..............

His marriage cert would tell you his father's name...if he knew it.

Age in 1911 suggests birth 1881/2

Please can anyone find me a John Cook Williams b 1883 Exeter Devon before his marriage to a Elizabeth Ann Stenniford in 1902 Devonport Devon.
In 1911 the Stenniford family are found to be living in Jeddo St Newport Monmouthshire but John Cook Williams is a lodger living with a Henry Ford and family in Swansea Glamorganshire.He is a miner.
Thank you

Thank you

Hi Lexie,

Yes the Mums maiden name should be on the birth cert, ( I have certs from 1840's with mothers maiden name on them)

If the mum had been married more than once it should say
Mother ? ? (full forename/s and married surname)
Formaly ? (first married surname)
Nee ? (Maiden surname)

It was just that from Sept Quarter 1911 the mothers maiden name was also added to the Birth Index.

Hope this helps

Barbara xx

If i buy birth cert will it give me the maiden name of mother.Please can you tell me what year the mothers name started to be added to birth certs.
Thank you

Well, you'll need to find the birth info..............no-one can look for them in censuses without it

But.......why don't you buy Rosina's birth cert?

Thank you for your reply

The witnesses for the above marriage were
Lily McNicholas who married William sister of Rosina

George Knowles who married Ivy who was also sister of Rosina

I have no other birth info for the other siblings the dates given to me were from the daughter of Rosina

Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)
Richardson John R Williams Wakefield 9c 135
Williams Rosina S Richardson Wakefield 9c 135

Who witnessed the marriage?

Please post the birth info for them

Belated thanks just got back to looking at this side of family

The two marriages you mention are correct.

Other siblings of Rosina were John William Tom and James all seem to have been born 1900/1911 so why dont any of them show up on any census

Thank you

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Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%)

McNicholas William Williams Wakefield 9c 144
WILLIAMS Lily McNicholas Wakefield 9c 144

This seems too much of a coincidence not to be relevant

Marriages Jun 1930 (>99%)

KNOWLES George Williams Wakefield 9c 171
Williams Ivy G N Knowles Wakefield 9c 171


Births Sep 1908 (>99%)

Williams Ivy Gladys N Cardiff 11a 500