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Hello again, thanks, I'll bear that in mind. :-)

Marian, don't always expect the exact name of where someone was born to be given on a census return, i.e. Kirkby Fleetham.

We sometimes find that if a village or even small town wasn't well known then the nearest town may be used so in this case it could be Bedale, Northallerton, etc

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Emma%20Race&grave=175512

(above from google)

Chris :)

Just logged on (at work). I've been to the library whereFMP and Ancestry is free and been through all the 1814/1815/1816 age group but none of them say born Kirby Fleetham (also her age for the 1881 census is wrong), there is one at at York, lady's maid but says born York, Yorkshire, who knows, it may be her. Thank you for your help, I'll keep at it over the holidays.
Best wishes for xmas.

This would be the 1861, for our reference:

APPLEBY, John Head Unmarried M 54 1807 Flag Merchant Employs 6 Men
Kirkby Fleetham, Yorkshire
APPLEBY, Margaret Sister Unmarried F 48 1813 Proprietor Of Houses And Land
Kirkby Fleetham, Yorkshire
APPLEBY, Elizabeth Sister Unmarried F 46 1815 Proprietpor Of Houses And Land Kirkby Fleetham, Yorkshire
HUTCHESON, Elizabeth Servant F 13 1848 House Servant Fountains Earth, Yorkshire

Piece: 3193 Folio: 19 Page: 31
Registration District: Pateley Bridge
Civil Parish: Bishopside

Address: Kell House, Pateley, Bishopside, Pateley Bridge
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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and this is the 1881:

APPLEBY, John Head Single M 76 1805 Lead Mine Agent Kirby Fleetham, Yorkshire APPLEBY, Margaret Sister Single F 57 1824 Annuitant Kirby Fleetham, Yorkshire APPLEBY, Elizabeth Sister Single F 55 1826 Annuitant Kirby Fleetham RACE, Emma Niece Single F 33 1848 Annuitant Rudby
NEWBOULD, Ellen Servant Single F 16 1865 Domestic Servt Dacre, Cumberland

Piece: 4314 Folio: 20 Page: 34
Registration District: Pateley Bridge
Civil Parish: High and Low Bishopside

Address: Kell House, High And Low Bishopside
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Any chance of posting the 1881 for us to look at?

At the moment, we've no firm basis on which to work

You started this thread asking about EMMA..............Elizabeth seems to have materialised from nowhere

MarieCeleste, I have Elizabeth on all the census apart from 1851 census and would like to know where she was to complete my record for her.

Marian, could you clarify what you're actually looking for as you say you have Elizabeth up to the 1881?

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Hi, I am still looking for Elizabeth Appleby born Kir(k)by Fleetham, Yorkshire 1814/1815 (parents John and Margaret). On the 1841 census above I have now decided that the Agusto and Eliza Appleby listed are probably mine. Augusta dies 1849 so it is Elizabeth I am stuck on. On all the following census she is at Kell House, Pately Bridge although on the 1881 census her DOB is wrong. Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Thank you, back to the drawing board!

That one's married.

APPLEBY, Christr Head Married M 35 1816 Ag Lab Leeming, Yorkshire
APPLEBY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1816 East Harlsey, Yorkshire
APPLEBY, Thomas Son M 11 1840 East Harlsey, Yorkshire
APPLEBY, William Son M 6 1845 East Harlsey, Yorkshire
APPLEBY, Christr Son M 1 1850 Yafforth, Yorkshire

Piece: 2378 Folio: 167 Page: 9
Registration District: Bedale
Civil Parish: Burneston

Address: Leeming, Burneston County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Hi, I've just noticed another Elizabeth Appleby on the FMP 1851 census index born 1816 and she is in the Bedale registration district. Could someone please have a look, usual details. Thanks.

Thanks Reggie, not mine I'm afraid. :-(

1851 England Census

Name: Elizth Appleby
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
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Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bedale, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Exelby, Leeming, and Newton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bedale
Sub-registration district: Bedale
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 2378
Folio: 166
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Appleby 70..............Widow b, Wath
Elizth Appleby 30 Unmarried
Thomas Appleby 4 Grandson


No relationship recorded between the two Elizabeths

There is an Elizabeth Appleby on the 1851 census on FMP in the Bedale district, Yorkshire aged 30, born 1821 who I think may be sister to the above Appleby baptisms. Could I have another look up for the usual details. Thanks.

Thanks for the above, dont think its my Augusta. Best wishes.

1841:
SALUSBURY, Nicholas M 70 1771 Lancashire
SALUSBURY, Anne F 65 1776
EWART, Maria F 9 1832
EWART, Annie F 8 1833
EWART, William M 6 1835
WILSON, Martha F 20 1821
APPLEBY, Eliza F 20 1821
APPLEBY, Agusto F 20 1821
OUTTWAITE, Thomas M 20 1821
CROPPER, James M 30 1811 Lancashire
MCDERMOT, Margret F 60 1781 Lancashire
APPLETON, Anne F 25 1816
WATERHOUSE, Rose F 30 1811

Piece: 511 Book/Folio: 5/27 Page: 3
Registration District: West Derby
Civil Parish: Childwall

Address: Bailey's Lane, Childwall, Garston County: Lancashire

Both of the Applebys were born outside Lancashire and both had occupation FS (Female Servant?) Nicholas Salisbury was a merchant.

This amended post relates to Augusta Emily and not her sister Emily..I am looking at the index on FMP 1841census which has the following AGUSTO APPLEBY. Age as 21 born 1821 but I know they were rounded up/down. Registration District/Parish as West Derby, County is Lancashire. Could someone please have a look at see if this is Augusta and see where she is and who with. I didn't put in a first name, just surname and ticked variants box, born 1818 with +/- 10 years. No other details and the above came up. Thank you.

John Appleby
Birth 24 MAR 1755
Marriage 1799 to Margaret Bradford

Death 1827 in Salutation, Little Fencote



1851

Margaret Appleby 74 Widow -Landed Proprietor- b Richmond
son John Appleby 46
dau Margaret Appleby 33
dau Emma Appleby 28
gndson Charles Race 6
grdson Edwin Race 5
grddau Emma Race 3
grddau Ann Horner 15