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? 1901
Name: Lily Thomas
Age in 1901: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Oldcastle
Ecclesiastical parish: Coyty and Nolton St Mary
Town: Bridgend
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Name: John Thomas
Age in 1901: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lily Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Oldcastle
Ecclesiastical parish: Coyty and Nolton St Mary
Town: Bridgend
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Name: Frederick Thomas
Age in 1901: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Thomas
Mother's Name: Lily Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Oldcastle
Ecclesiastical parish: Coyty and Nolton St Mary
Town: Bridgend
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Thanks. I have got that record and it seems probable. Especially with the Cambridge /Cowbridge note. Did find out that she had a daughter ,and wonder if she was unmarried.and he had her maiden name.

I was given a copy of a wedding certificate by one of John's granddaughters It is a wedding in 1883 between George Thomas and Margaret Thomas. The granddaughter is pretty definate that George was Johns .brother.As he was 28 when he married George would be have been born in 1856 which would make him 23 year older than John . So I'm wondering if he was John's father ,not his brother ..and if he had a son named George..,In the 1881 census the grandmother that John was living with in 1891 had a daughter Margaret living with her .. I thought she might be the one on the certificate ,but there is a three year age difference

just looked again at the 1881 census . Margaret would be the right age for the wedding certificate . but John 2 years old is listed as John Huntable. :-S

1901
Elizabeth's mother?
220 RICHARDS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 63 1838 Charwoman
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
220 RICHARDS, Albert Son Single M 19 1882 Labourer
Bridgend, Glamorganshire VIEW
220 RICHARDS, Florrie Grand Daughter Single F 9 1892
Bridgend, Glamorganshire VIEW

RG number: RG13

Piece: 5050

Folio: 81

Page: 33

Sub District: Bridgend

Enumeration District: 6

Ecclesiastical Parish: Coity with Nolton St Mary

Municipal Borough:

Address: 6, Edward Street, Oldcastle, Bridgend

County: Glamorganshire

address in 1901
Civil Parish: Oldcastle

Address: 5, Suffolk Street, Oldcastle, Bridgend

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
>>>Huxtable Ellen Bridgend 11a 715
John John Bridgend 11a 715
Prosser Mary Bridgend 11a 715
>>>Thomas Thomas Bridgend 11a 715

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Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Huxtable Alfred John Bridgend 11a 522

full transcript of 1881 census
name: John Huxtable
age: 2
gender: Male
birth year: 1879
birthplace: Wales
relationship to head of household: Grand Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation:
address: 131 Nolton St
census place: Lower Coyty, Glamorganshire, Wales
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342284
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5331 / 93
page number: 27
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head John Thomas M 80 Tavistock, Devon, Wales
wife Elizabeth Thomas F 50 Wales
daughter Margaret Thomas F 22 Wales
daughter Anne Thomas F 16 Wales
daughter Elizabeth Thomas F 14 Wales
daughter Catherine Thomas F 9 Wales
grand son John Huxtable M 2 Wales
grand son William H Huxtable M 0 Wales
visitor Jane Smith F 64 Highworth, Wiltshire, Wales

1871
THOMAS, John Head M 67 1804 Devon VIEW
THOMAS, Elizabeth Wife F 39 1832 Pembrokeshire VIEW
THOMAS, Margaret Daughter F 12 1859 Glamorgan VIEW
THOMAS, Ann Daughter F 6 1865 Glamorgan VIEW
THOMAS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Glamorgan VIEW
JAMES, Matthew Visitor M 47 1824 Devon VIEW

Piece: 5419

Folio: 90

Page: 32

Registration District: Bridgend

Civil Parish: Coity

Municipal Borough:

Address: Coy Church Rd, Coity, Bridgend

County: Glamorganshire

This is the census transcription for Elizabeth Richards John Thomas's wife and family She is the 1year old .her mother was also Elizabeth 1881 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address 34, Brackla Street
Parish Lower Coyty
District Bridgend, Bridgend
Administrative County Glamorganshire
Householder 1
Name John Richards
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1835
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Coachman Dom
Birth Place Nottingham
Birth County
Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Richards
Age 43
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Plymouth
Birth County Devon
Householder 3
Name Sarah Richards
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation
Birth Place America
Birth County Quebec
Householder 4
Name Alfred Richards
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation
Birth Place Limerick, Ireland
Birth County
Householder 5
Name John Richards
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Laleston, Wales
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 6
Name William Richards
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Laleston, Wales
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 7
Name Walter Richards
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Bridgend, Wales
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 8
Name Frank Richards
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Bridgend, Wales
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 9
Name Fred Richards
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1876
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Bridgend, Wales
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 10
Name Elizabeth Richards
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Bridgend, Wales
Birth County Glamorganshire

Hello Vicci. You could be right that it is Huxstable not Huntable .

I'm thinking that Margaret may have been an unmaried mother of the grandchildren and when she married George ,did they take on John and change his surname to Thomas ,the 12 year old on the next census.

Would there be adoption or name change records and where could I find them.? William is not on the next census with this family.

I spoke with John's granddaughter yesterday and she still says that George and John were brothers :-S

The wedding certificate does seem to be for that Margaret as her witness was Annie Thomas the same name as Margaret's sister. The other witness was Harry Lewis.

Re birth cetrificate Alfred John Huxtable . John Thomas's second son was named Alfred. Maybe that's why we couldn't find a birth certificate for John Thomas. :-0

When I say John Thomas's grandchildren they are not children now. they are all in their 70s and 80s. How do I tell them what I'm thinking. :-|

Something wrong here ? If George is John's brother (or half-brother) he could not be married to Margaret. I'm still thinking, could he be a step-father who maybe had a son George , who would be John's half brother , but I can't find any records to prove this. Still can't find any other records for William H Huxtable that match his birth date of 1881. The are are a lot of William Thomas but cannot check them out without sending for certificates. Any way I could find the parents without spending money on the wrong ones.

William Thomas
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Lower Coyty
Ecclesiastical parish: Coyty
Town: Bridgend
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bridgend
Sub-registration district: Bridgend
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4454
Folio: 97
Page Number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
George Thomas 38
Margaret Thomas 29
William Thomas 10
Margaret Thomas 7
George Thomas 4
Charles Thomas 2
James Floyd 40

Found this . The names all fit and there is a young George,but the ages are wrong . The older George was born in Swansea
Any suggestions please,

Thank You Vicci. The birth record seem to be the right one . I have the cerificate now. It gives John's mothers address as Aber House Port talbot. Place for unmarried mothers ,maybe ???
Still trying to find the wedding of John and Elizabeth.

Not good at map reading. Llanelly is about 30 miles. Don't know what the roads would have been like in 1896 but will check that record next week. Don't think Bridgend registrar will have those records. Will have to phone Swansea.

name: Margaret Thomas
event: Baptism
event date: 1860
event place: Nolton Bridgend Chapelry, Glamorgan, Wales
street address: Bridgend
age:
occupation: Lab
father: John
mother: Elizabeth

also with f. John m. Elizabeth
John 1860
Ann 1865
Catharine 1872

Elizabeth 1876 street address: Farley Court

different family at 102 Nolton Street
Lucy Annie 1874
John Henry 1878
David Morgan 1881

could you please post full details of

marriage George Thomas to Margaret Thomas 1883
ie father names, ages, addresses, occupations

birth details of Alfred John Huxstable - father named?? confirm mother was Ellen Huxstable

Did you get marriage of Ellen Huxstable in 1880 possibly to Thomas Thomas ?

Did you get William Huxstable
Births Jun 1879
Huxtable William Bridgend 11a 534
parents details may clarify situation