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22 Nov 2012 18:44 |
No need to trawl each church.
Try this link and then press "click" which is highlighted.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
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Michelle
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22 Nov 2012 15:12 |
Thank you K and Stuart. I had searched on the Lan-OPC site for hours I think I must have gone a bit blind with that one as I trawled through every church listed! :-)
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greyghost
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22 Nov 2012 15:10 |
???? Baptism: 17 Dec 1769 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England John Fazakerley - Son of Edward Fazakerley & Ann Born: 17 Nov Abode: Knowsley Occupation: labourer Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 15, Entry 25 Source: LDS Film 1657583
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22 Nov 2012 14:57 |
Burials St Mary the Virgin, Prescot John and Mary on 1841 census but not 1851, so possibles - not forgetting ages were rounded down on the 1841 ie age 60-64 = 60
Fazakerley Grace 33 1846 Jane 13 months 1840 John 77 1846 Mary 66 1842 Thomazin 77 1838 William 80 1839
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22 Nov 2012 14:36 |
Here it is from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Prescot/index.html Baptism: 21 Oct 1810 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancs. John Fazackerley - Son of John Fazackerley & Mary Born: 1 Sep 1810 Abode: Rainhill Occupation: File Cutter Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1812, Page 4 Source: LDS Film 1657583
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22 Nov 2012 14:33 |
?? They are in the Prescot area in 1841, there is this baptism shown in Prescot with parents John and Mary
name: John Fazakerley gender: Male baptism/christening date: 21 Oct 1810 baptism/christening place: St. Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England father's name: John Fazakerley mother's name: Mary indexing project (batch) number: I04625-4 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1482455
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22 Nov 2012 12:43 |
In 1841 it appears that John b1811 was living with his parents and siblings. His father and brothers were also listed as a file maker? They were living at Holt Lane Rainhill. All listed as born in County.
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Name: John Fazakerley Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Prescot Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Prescot Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 517 Book: 2 Folio: 20 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age John Fazakerley 70 Mary Fazakerley 60 Joseph Fazakerley 40 John Fazakerley 30 James Fazakerley 20 Ann Fazakerley 14 View Original Record
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Michelle
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21 Nov 2012 19:33 |
Me again, I am stuck again and I am really banging my head against the wall. I am trying to find information on JOHN FAZACKERLEY born around 1811. He is Thomas' father and was married to ELLEN but after that nothing...I would like to know mother/father etc. can anyone please help further? Thanks
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Gee
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18 Nov 2012 19:36 |
Hi Michelle
Take no notice of census ages, they are normally out by a couple of years
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Michelle
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18 Nov 2012 15:12 |
Thanks Stuart. I thought I had found her birth and baptism records after the mention of her father (William Longshaw) and Mother (Betty Ratcliff) as 4.4.1810 bap. 12.8.1810?? I assume census estimated births are very estimated?
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greyghost
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18 Nov 2012 14:55 |
Ellen's age changes from census to census - not unusual. She is 23 in 1841 (b1818) Often the 1841 will have ages rounded down and at 23 she would have appeared as aged 20 39 in 1851 (b1812) 43 in 1861 (b 1818) 56 in 1871 (b 1815) Widow living i/c daughter Sarah who is now a Littlewood) 63 in 1881 (b1818) 68 in 1885 (b1816/17) when she dies - Warrington, Lancs Dec Qtr 8c 144
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Michelle
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18 Nov 2012 14:28 |
Hi Guys, me again.
I have been looking into all the information you provided yesterday and I am a little confused. Ellen Fazackerley (was Boydell nee Longshaw) seems to have 2 different birth years even though all the information adds up to be the same person! I have one showing birth 1810 and another showing 1818! Unless I have got something wrong somewhere...my head is like 'whoa' at the mo! Can anyone please help (again!) and try to clarify? Thank you!!
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Michelle
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17 Nov 2012 21:51 |
Thanks again guys. Sheffield makes plenty of sense as my Nanan, Thomas' granddaughter was born in Sheffield!
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Gee
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17 Nov 2012 18:27 |
If you wanted to visit the grave for the above that I posted, in Sheffield:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=2204708&PIpi=37037170&PIMode=cemetery
The caretaker is on site, very helpful
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 Name: Hannah Sales Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1891 Age at Death: 27 Registration district: Sheffield Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 257
Marriages Sep 1881 ------------------------------- BILLARD Sarah Jane Sheffield 9c 541 Sayles John Sheffield 9c 541
Just wondered if you have a 'Billard' connection?
If it was a paupers grave, Hannah might have no connection to Thomas and Mary Jane Faz*
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greyghost
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17 Nov 2012 18:19 |
Another couple of spellings for your collection (I know the lancs opc was posted) Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%) Appleton Margaret Prescott 8b 889 Aspinall James Prescott 8b 889 Aspinwall James Prescott 8b 889 Fazackeley Thomas Prescott 8b 889 <<<<<<< Fazackerly Thomas Prescott 8b 889 <<<<<<< SHORT Mary Jane Prescott 8b 889
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Gee
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17 Nov 2012 17:57 |
Stuart, looks like you are right about the move to Sheffield
Fazackerley, Mary Jane (widow, age 83). Died at 111 Harwood St; Buried on November 9, 1936 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 7416, Section V1 of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: . Plot Owner: of .
FAZACKERLEY, Thomas (File Forger, age 63). Died at South Yorkshire Asylum; Buried on January 17, 1914 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 7416, Section V1 of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: . Sayles, Hannah (Married, age 27). Died at Hospital West St; Buried on December 24, 1891 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 7416, Section V1 of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.
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Michelle
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17 Nov 2012 17:54 |
Wow how many different ways can you spell the surname!! I knew there was a few but some there you couldn't dream up haha! Explains why they were hard to find! Federation....certainly different! Thank you!
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greyghost
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17 Nov 2012 17:49 |
Bit harder to find in 1901 as surname spelt this way doesn't come up as a varient. However there is no disguising Federation!! I wonder what the inspiration was for that name?
1901 census transcription details for: 34, Cemetery Road, Ecclesall Bierlow, Town
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4352 Folio: 103 Page: 23 Reg. District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub District: Ecclesall Bierlow Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Enum. District: 33 Ecclesiastical District: St Matthias City/Municipal Borough: Address: 34, Cemetery Road, Ecclesall Bierlow, Town County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FAZACHERLEY, Thomas Head Married M 51 1850 File Cutter Pecks Hill, Yorkshire FAZACHERLEY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 48 1853 Warrington, Lancashire FAZACHERLEY, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cutlery Warehouseman Sheffield, Yorkshire FAZACHERLEY, Eleanor Daughter Single F 18 1883 Cutlery Warehouseman Sheffield, Yorkshire FAZACHERLEY, Robert Son Single M 16 1885 Engineer FitterSheffield, Yorkshire FAZACHERLEY, May Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1887 Sheffield, Yorkshire FAZACHERLEY, Amy Daughter Single F 12 1889 Sheffield, Yorkshire FAZACHERLEY, Federation Son Single M 6 1895 Sheffield, Yorkshire
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Dea
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17 Nov 2012 17:36 |
WOW - what a NAME !!!!!
Dea Xxx :-)
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greyghost
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17 Nov 2012 17:33 |
1911 - moved to Yorkshire
10 children born, 8 still living, 2 have died
1911 census transcription details for: 24 Earl ST
National Archive Reference: RG14PN27861 RG78PN1594 RD510 SD1 ED13 SN2 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: South Sheffield Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 13 Address: 24 Earl ST County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born FAZACKERLY, Thomas Head Married M 6 1905 File Maker Forger Hand Peckshill Lancashire FAZACKERLY, Mary Jane Wife Married40 years F 58 1853 Warrington Lancashire FAZACKERLY, Federation Son Single M 16 1895 File Maker Forger Hand Sheffield Yorkshire
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