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Thomas Fazackerley

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Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Nov 2012 18:44

No need to trawl each church.

Try this link and then press "click" which is highlighted.

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Michelle

Michelle Report 22 Nov 2012 15:12

Thank you K and Stuart.
I had searched on the Lan-OPC site for hours I think I must have gone a bit blind with that one as I trawled through every church listed! :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Nov 2012 15:10

????
Baptism: 17 Dec 1769 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
John Fazakerley - Son of Edward Fazakerley & Ann
Born: 17 Nov
Abode: Knowsley
Occupation: labourer
Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 15, Entry 25
Source: LDS Film 1657583

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Nov 2012 14:57

Burials St Mary the Virgin, Prescot
John and Mary on 1841 census but not 1851, so possibles - not forgetting ages were rounded down on the 1841 ie age 60-64 = 60

Fazakerley
Grace 33 1846
Jane 13 months 1840
John 77 1846
Mary 66 1842
Thomazin 77 1838
William 80 1839

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Nov 2012 14:36

Here it is from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Prescot/index.html
Baptism: 21 Oct 1810 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancs.
John Fazackerley - Son of John Fazackerley & Mary
Born: 1 Sep 1810
Abode: Rainhill
Occupation: File Cutter
Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1812, Page 4
Source: LDS Film 1657583

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Nov 2012 14:33

??
They are in the Prescot area in 1841, there is this baptism shown in Prescot with parents John and Mary

name: John Fazakerley
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Oct 1810
baptism/christening place: St. Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England
father's name: John Fazakerley
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I04625-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1482455

K

K Report 22 Nov 2012 12:43

In 1841 it appears that John b1811 was living with his parents and siblings. His father and brothers were also listed as a file maker? They were living at Holt Lane Rainhill. All listed as born in County.

1841

Name: John Fazakerley
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Prescot
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 517
Book: 2
Folio: 20
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fazakerley 70
Mary Fazakerley 60
Joseph Fazakerley 40
John Fazakerley 30
James Fazakerley 20
Ann Fazakerley 14

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Michelle

Michelle Report 21 Nov 2012 19:33

Me again, I am stuck again and I am really banging my head against the wall.
I am trying to find information on JOHN FAZACKERLEY born around 1811. He is Thomas' father and was married to ELLEN but after that nothing...I would like to know mother/father etc. can anyone please help further?
Thanks

Gee

Gee Report 18 Nov 2012 19:36

Hi Michelle


Take no notice of census ages, they are normally out by a couple of years

x

Michelle

Michelle Report 18 Nov 2012 15:12

Thanks Stuart.
I thought I had found her birth and baptism records after the mention of her father (William Longshaw) and Mother (Betty Ratcliff) as 4.4.1810 bap. 12.8.1810??
I assume census estimated births are very estimated?

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 14:55

Ellen's age changes from census to census - not unusual.
She is 23 in 1841 (b1818) Often the 1841 will have ages rounded down and at 23 she would have appeared as aged 20
39 in 1851 (b1812)
43 in 1861 (b 1818)
56 in 1871 (b 1815) Widow living i/c daughter Sarah who is now a Littlewood)
63 in 1881 (b1818)
68 in 1885 (b1816/17) when she dies - Warrington, Lancs Dec Qtr 8c 144

Michelle

Michelle Report 18 Nov 2012 14:28

Hi Guys, me again.

I have been looking into all the information you provided yesterday and I am a little confused. Ellen Fazackerley (was Boydell nee Longshaw) seems to have 2 different birth years even though all the information adds up to be the same person! I have one showing birth 1810 and another showing 1818! Unless I have got something wrong somewhere...my head is like 'whoa' at the mo!
Can anyone please help (again!) and try to clarify?
Thank you!!

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Nov 2012 21:51

Thanks again guys.
Sheffield makes plenty of sense as my Nanan, Thomas' granddaughter was born in Sheffield!

Gee

Gee Report 17 Nov 2012 18:27

If you wanted to visit the grave for the above that I posted, in Sheffield:


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=2204708&PIpi=37037170&PIMode=cemetery


The caretaker is on site, very helpful


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Hannah Sales
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1891
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 257



Marriages Sep 1881
-------------------------------
BILLARD Sarah Jane Sheffield 9c 541
Sayles John Sheffield 9c 541



Just wondered if you have a 'Billard' connection?





If it was a paupers grave, Hannah might have no connection to Thomas and Mary Jane Faz*



x

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2012 18:19

Another couple of spellings for your collection (I know the lancs opc was posted)
Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
Appleton Margaret Prescott 8b 889
Aspinall James Prescott 8b 889
Aspinwall James Prescott 8b 889
Fazackeley Thomas Prescott 8b 889 <<<<<<<
Fazackerly Thomas Prescott 8b 889 <<<<<<<
SHORT Mary Jane Prescott 8b 889

Gee

Gee Report 17 Nov 2012 17:57

Stuart, looks like you are right about the move to Sheffield



Fazackerley, Mary Jane (widow, age 83).
Died at 111 Harwood St; Buried on November 9, 1936 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 7416, Section V1 of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: .
Plot Owner: of .


FAZACKERLEY, Thomas (File Forger, age 63).
Died at South Yorkshire Asylum; Buried on January 17, 1914 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 7416, Section V1 of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: .

Sayles, Hannah (Married, age 27).
Died at Hospital West St; Buried on December 24, 1891 in Consecrated ground;
Grave Number 7416, Section V1 of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Nov 2012 17:54

Wow how many different ways can you spell the surname!! I knew there was a few but some there you couldn't dream up haha! Explains why they were hard to find!
Federation....certainly different!
Thank you!

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2012 17:49

Bit harder to find in 1901 as surname spelt this way doesn't come up as a varient. However there is no disguising Federation!! I wonder what the inspiration was for that name?

1901 census transcription details for: 34, Cemetery Road, Ecclesall Bierlow, Town

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4352
Folio: 103
Page: 23
Reg. District: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub District: Ecclesall Bierlow
Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Enum. District: 33
Ecclesiastical District: St Matthias
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 34, Cemetery Road, Ecclesall Bierlow, Town
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FAZACHERLEY, Thomas Head Married M 51 1850 File Cutter Pecks Hill, Yorkshire
FAZACHERLEY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 48 1853 Warrington, Lancashire
FAZACHERLEY, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cutlery Warehouseman Sheffield, Yorkshire
FAZACHERLEY, Eleanor Daughter Single F 18 1883 Cutlery Warehouseman Sheffield, Yorkshire
FAZACHERLEY, Robert Son Single M 16 1885 Engineer FitterSheffield, Yorkshire
FAZACHERLEY, May Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1887 Sheffield, Yorkshire
FAZACHERLEY, Amy Daughter Single F 12 1889 Sheffield, Yorkshire
FAZACHERLEY, Federation Son Single M 6 1895 Sheffield, Yorkshire

Dea

Dea Report 17 Nov 2012 17:36

WOW - what a NAME !!!!!

Dea Xxx :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2012 17:33

1911 - moved to Yorkshire

10 children born, 8 still living, 2 have died

1911 census transcription details for: 24 Earl ST

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN27861 RG78PN1594 RD510 SD1 ED13 SN2
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: South Sheffield
Parish: Sheffield
Enum. District: 13
Address: 24 Earl ST
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FAZACKERLY, Thomas Head Married M 6 1905 File Maker Forger Hand Peckshill Lancashire
FAZACKERLY, Mary Jane Wife Married40 years F 58 1853 Warrington Lancashire
FAZACKERLY, Federation Son Single M 16 1895 File Maker Forger Hand Sheffield Yorkshire