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12 Nov 2012 09:38 |
Archie Samways England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1888 Woodborough,? Wiltshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Andover,? Hampshire,? England name: Archie Samways event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 13 relationship to head of household: Grand Son birthplace: Woodborough, Wiltshire record type: Household registration district: Andover sub-district: Andover ecclesiastical parish: St Michael'S Enham civil parish: Andover county: Hampshire
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12 Nov 2012 09:38 |
Archarbald J Samways England and Wales Census, 1891 birth: Woodborough,? Wiltshire census: 1891 England name: Archarbald J Samways event: Census event date: 1891 gender: Male age: 3 relationship to head of household: Grandson birthplace: Woodborough, Wiltshire record type: Household registration district: Kingsclere sub-district: Highclere ecclesiastical parish: Litchfield civil parish: Litchfield county: Hampshire
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12 Nov 2012 09:37 |
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Archibald Frank Samways England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: Wilton,? Wiltshire census: 1911 Great Wishford South Newton Without,? Wishford Salisbury,? Wiltshire,? England name: Archibald Frank Samways event: Census event date: 1911 gender: Male age: 5 birthplace: Wilton, Wiltshire record type: Household registration district: Wilton sub-district: Wilton parish: Great Wishford South Newton Without county: Wiltshire
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12 Nov 2012 09:34 |
three calendar months hard labour
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dancingqueen
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11 Nov 2012 23:18 |
interesting definitely
Imprisonment 3 Cal -what does this mean? 3 months/ years? Sorry read it wrong it says 3 calander months hard labour got it.
All I know is that Archibald James Samways was born at Cuttenham, North Newnton, Wiltshire on 23/02/1888 -which was a big house at which his Father was a servant
but by 1891 -Mary Samways and children are living with her parents George and Jane Prince back in Hampshire and James is not in Wiltshire or Hampshire, or it seems in England and Wales.
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11 Nov 2012 23:10 |
Wondering if this is relevant to you?
Name: James Samways Date of Trial: 6 Jul 1888 Trial Year: 1888 Location of Trial: Hampshire, England Sentence: Imprisonment 3 Cal. Months H.L. Crime: Simple Larceny After previous Conviction of Feloney
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11 Nov 2012 23:07 |
Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908 about Harry Wm Samways Name: Harry Wm Samways Birth Date: 10 Feb 1895 Birth Place: West Superior, Douglas, Wisconsin Gender: Male Race: White Father's Name: James Wm Samways Father's Birth Place: England Mother's name: Harriet Hill Mother's Birth Place: England FHL Film Number: 1302864 Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908 about Walter Edward Samways Name: Walter Edward Samways Birth Date: 13 Aug 1900 Birth Place: West Superior, Wisconsin Gender: Male Race: White Father's Name: James William Samways Father's Birth Place: England Mother's name: Harriet Hill Mother's Birth Place: England FHL Film Number: 1302865 Death California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Walter E Samways Name: Walter E Samways Social Security #: 549055863 Gender: Male Birth Date: 13 Aug 1901 Birth Place: Wisconsin Death Date: 11 May 1964 Death Place: Stanislaus Mother's Maiden Name: Hill
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11 Nov 2012 23:01 |
Name: SAMWAYS, James W Registration district: [?] Chard County: Somerset Year of registration: 1880 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name Not available before 1912 Volume no: [?] 5C Page no: [?] 584A
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Name: HILL, Harriette Registration district: Chard County: Somerset Year of registration: 1880 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 5C Page no: 584A
Yeah found the record for the James W Samways in US CENSUS, marrying Harriette Hill in 1880 in England -SO DEFINITY NOT MY JAMES SAMWAYS
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dancingqueen
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11 Nov 2012 22:57 |
Thanks everyone, your help has been amazing -any ideas where I could go from here -any ideas of records that I could check?
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GlasgowLass
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11 Nov 2012 22:55 |
Re 1900 census in Douglas Wisconsin
Looks like this onw was married to Harriet Hill
Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908 about Bessie Samways Name: Bessie Samways Birth Date: 24 Sep 1890 Birth Place: West Superior, Douglas, Wisconsin Gender: Female Race: White Father's Name: Jno H Samways Father's Birth Place: England Mother's name: Harrit Hill Mother's Birth Place: England FHL Film Number: 1302864
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11 Nov 2012 22:52 |
Thanks rootgatherer, tht was my next search after checking migration records which of course dont start until 1890, but my system pretty slow. Think that is pretty conclusive evidence that, that is not my samways -as of course they are in UK in 1881, what a shame.
Thanks
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11 Nov 2012 22:52 |
Sorry Ann - I was trying to establish occupations and the birthplaces stated on the census images as I thought that it would then be easier to identify the correct people on the 1881 English census.
I haven't been much help though except that Dancingqueen can probably eliminate that James as being hers.
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11 Nov 2012 22:49 |
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Name: James W. Samways Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harriett Samways Gender: Male Where born: Winsford Eagle Civil parish: Winsham County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: Fore St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Agri Labourer Registration district: Chard Sub-registration district: Chard ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2386 Folio: 160 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age James W. Samways 23 Harriett Samways 24 Alfred J. Samways Eli Way 17
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11 Nov 2012 22:48 |
glad to see someone else come on board :-)
we do have those though
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11 Nov 2012 22:45 |
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Name: James Samways Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: England Race: White Home in 1930: Modesto, Stanislaus, California View Map Marital Status: Widowed Immigration Year: 1885 Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age August F Lang 46 Bessie H Lang 39 Harriet G Lang 19 Jean E Lang 16 Mary L Lang 9 James Samways 72 No occupation given
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Name: James W Samways Age: 62 Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Superior Ward 9, Douglas, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Single <<<<<<<<< Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Canada [England] Def. Canada on image Home Owned: Own Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James W Samways 62 Carpenter David Doucette 54
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Name: James Samways Age in 1910: 52 Birth Year: 1858 Birthplace: England Home in 1910: Superior Ward 9, Douglas, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1887 Relation to Head of House: Head [Self (Head)] Marital Status: Widowed Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Samways 52 Labourer Harry Samways 15 Son Walther Samways 9 Son
Both sons born Wisconsin. Mother's birthplace England.
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Name: James Samways Age: 44 Birth Date: Feb 1856 Birthplace: England Home in 1900: Superior Ward 9, Douglas, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1885 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Harriett Samways Marriage Year: 1880 Years married: 20 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Samways 44 Carpenter Harriett Samways 43 b. England Alfred J Samways 19 b. England Frederick Samways 18 b. England Frank Samways 11 b. Wisconsin Bessie H Samways 9 b. Wisconsin Harry W Samways 5 b. Wisconsin
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11 Nov 2012 22:44 |
Well thank you for all your help -this is what I have been doing -and so far, nobody has been able to break through this wall -I have checked deaths in uk, none relating to my James Samways by Archibald's marriage in 1911 he has father as deceased -but I think this is in his eyes, as his mother still refers to herself as married not widowed until her death in 1926
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11 Nov 2012 22:39 |
not much help I realise - just posting what I can find as I'm trawling through :-)
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11 Nov 2012 22:37 |
Mary Ann Samways England and Wales Census, 1871 birth: 1862 Ovington,? Hampshire residence: 1871 Steventon,? Steventon,? Hampshire,? England parents: Job Samways,? Mary Samways
name: Mary Ann Samways event: Census event date: 1871 gender: Female age: 9 relationship to head of household: Daughter birthplace: Ovington, Hampshire record type: Household registration district: Basingstoke sub-district: Dummer event parish: Steventon county: Hampshire
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11 Nov 2012 22:35 |
Ernest Edward Samways England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: Litchfield,? Hampshire census: 1911 Litchfield,? Litchfield Whitchurch,? Hampshire,? England name: Ernest Edward Samways event: Census event date: 1911 gender: Male age: 25 birthplace: Litchfield, Hampshire record type: Household registration district: Kingsclere sub-district: Highclere parish: Litchfield county: Hampshire
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11 Nov 2012 22:34 |
Florence Amy Samways England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: North Litchfield,? Hampshire census: 1911 Avington,? Avington Alresford,? Hampshire,? England name: Florence Amy Samways event: Census event date: 1911 gender: Female age: 27 birthplace: North Litchfield, Hampshire record type: Household registration district: Winchester sub-district: Micheldever parish: Avington county: Hampshire
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