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John Clayton born 1853 in Evenwood, Durham

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Peter

Peter Report 7 Nov 2012 16:42

I can't find the actual birth record in Free BMD or Genes Reunited to enable me to obtain a copy of the original birth certificate. Trying to make progress with his ancestral line. Can anyone help?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Nov 2012 16:47

Welcome to the boards Peter.
Do you know who he married? His marriage cert will give his father's name, which is a start at least!
Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 16:47

No surprise, really.

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births.....and many simply weren't registered

Try looking for a baptism, although that won't tell you his DOB, or his mother's maiden name

Did he marry?

His father - if known - will be named on the cert

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2012 16:50



name: John /Clayton/
gender: Male
birth: 1853
Evenwood, Nr Bishop Auckland, Co Durham


Marriages (1)
spouse: Mary Ann /Featherstone/
marriage: March 1881
Auckland, Co Durham
Hide children (7)

child 1: Mary Ann /Clayton/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1887
Burnley, Lancashire

child 2: John /Clayton/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1891
Burnley, Lancashire
DEATH 1902
Burnley, Lancashire

child 3: Violet /Clayton/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1900
Burnley, Lancashire

child 4: Ralph /Clayton/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1884
Spennymoor,Nr Bishop Auckland, Co Durham

child 5: James W. /Clayton/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1890
Burnley, Lancashire

child 6: Margaret Alice /Clayton/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1893
Burnley, Lancashire

child 7: Thomas /Clayton/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1891
Burnley, Lancashire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 16:50

How did you find out where he was born?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Nov 2012 16:51

There are 3 possibles in 1861 census, so a bit more info might be needed.
Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 16:52

1891 England Census about Chu Clayton
Name: Chu Clayton
[John Clayton]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Clayton
Gender: Male
Where born: Evenwood, Durham, England
Civil parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3361
Folio: 80
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Chu Clayton 38
Mary Ann Clayton 30 born BURNLEY
Ralph Clayton 6 born SPENNYMOOR
Mary Ann Clayton 4
James W Clayton 1
Thomas Clayton 2/12
John Clayton 2/12


Younger children born BURNLEY

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Nov 2012 16:53


1891 census transcription details for: 13 1/2, Dawson Square, Burnley
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3361
Folio: 80
Page: 14
Reg. District: Burnley
Sub District: Burnley
Parish: Burnley
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter
City/Municipal Borough: Burnley
Address: 13 1/2, Dawson Square, Burnley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CLAYTON, John Head Married M 38 1853 Coal Miner
Evenwood Durham
CLAYTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 30 1861
Burnley, Lancashire
CLAYTON, Ralph Son M 6 1885
Spennymore Durham
CLAYTON, Mary Ann Daughter F 4 1887
Burnley, Lancashire
CLAYTON, James W Son M 1 1890
Burnley, Lancashire
CLAYTON, Thomas Son M 0 (2M) 1891
Burnley, Lancashire
CLAYTON, John Son M 0 (2M) 1891
Burnley, Lancashire


Baptisms: 31 Aug 1891 St Peter, Burnley, Lancashire, England
John Clayton - Child of John Clayton & Mary Ann
Abode: 13 1/2 Dawson Square
Occupation: Collier
Notes: Private [ In wrong date order ]
Baptised by: Matthew W. Hall
Register: Baptisms 1891 - 1894, Page 33, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 1517691

Baptisms: 4 Sep 1891 St Peter, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Clayton - Child of John Clayton & Mary Ann
Abode: 13 1/2 Dawson Square
Occupation: Collier
Notes: Private
Baptised by: S. Edmond Clarke
Register: Baptisms 1891 - 1894, Page 33, Entry 260
Source: LDS Film 1517691

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 16:54

He is definitely NOT the one born Pittington........he also appears in 1891

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Nov 2012 16:59

The reg district for Evenwood seems to be Auckland, but this isn't helping!
Jan

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2012 17:07

I deleted the Pittington one

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2012 17:09

¦links;Clayton>Durking>Barber 1891 aged 38 , a coal miner, at 13 1/2 Dawson Sq, Burnley 1901 not at home 1911 wife a widow his death not found,nor he in census pre 1891
¦marriage-1881/1-Auckland, Co Durham-10a/249

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 17:10

????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1889

CLAYTON James William Burnley Preston FEATHERSTONE BU/188/39

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2012 17:13

he figures in my posting with his siblings

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 17:13

Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
BELL Eliza Auckland 10a 249
CLAYTON John Auckland 10a 249
FEATHERSTONE Mary Ann Auckland 10a 249
STONES George Auckland 10a 249

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 17:15

Ann

Which posting would that be, please?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 17:18

They should be together in 1881.....but I'm blowed if I can see them

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Nov 2012 17:30

Neither can I Reggie.
If ever a marriage cert was needed it is this one I think.
jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Nov 2012 17:36

I can't help wondering whether his birth name was something other than Clayton.......

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Nov 2012 17:41

Thinking the same thing as you Reggie. Have tried looking just John born Evenwood but nothing stands out. Either the name was different or he was mistaken about his birthplace.
jan