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Is this a possibility? Christina and her brother James going to US??


Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954 about James McDermid
Name: James McDermid
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Scottish (Scotish)
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Birth Place: Carmyle, Scotland
Age: 22
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Samaria
Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1923
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: John McFarlane
Last Residence: Scotland

He's single; a tinsmith;
Name and address of nearest relative - Mrs McDermid, 22 Clydeford Road, Cambuslang.
Heading to a friend, John McFarlane, 146 Bradhurst Ave., New York.
Intending to stay in USA permanently.
Dark complexion, brown hair, black eyes (!), height 5' 10".

Travelling with Christina McDermid, age 16, single, umbrella maker, height 5' 6", fair complexion, dark brown hair, brown eyes. all other details the same as for James.



Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954 about Christina McDermid
Name: Christina McDermid
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Scottish (Scotish)
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Birth Place: Carmyle, Scotland
Age: 16
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Samaria
Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1923
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: John McFarlane
Last Residence: Scotland

Thanks so much for all your hard work arglyll gran
yes this is definitely them . .how exciting ;
we have a copy of family scroll from a Mcfarlane member (more distant cousins from the Stevenson side of family i believe) I'll have to add it to my tree on here or get Brigid to do it on hers .

The address of Mrs McDermid in Cambuslang will help for future research
it implies that either brothers Duncan ,Andrew or ,Malcolm were deceased or had left Cambuslang pre 1923

Duncan, Andrew, & Malcolm could still be living with their mother, Alisoun, (or elsewhere in Cambuslang), but she would be James & Christina's next-of-kin, therefore named on the shipping record.

Their mother had died pre 1916...brother Walter's army records have both parents deceased
also grandad Tommy said his eldest sister (agnes or jeannie)brought him up with little Chrissie + baby John
My grandad "ran away". . to sea aged 15 ??
I'd better check his navy records, but that would have been around 1919 .
. It was my great aunt Chrissie who came from America with toys for my father +his sister early 1930's ...

Actually, their mother Jean died in 1920:

1920 MACDERMID JEANIE
(Other surname KYLE) F 56 OLD MONKLAND (WESTERN DISTRICT) /LANARK 652/01 0063

Still, I see what you mean.
Who's Mrs Mcdermid, then? A sister-in-law? Or an unmarried sister, who's been called Mrs instead of Miss? Or an aunt?

so grandad was 17 when she died but if she'd been ill for a long time his sister could have helped bring him up with the other young'uns .
( ps Argyll/gran In case you don't read the General chat board I did put an appreciation of all your help on there) .

Further back ; re nov 2012 post from rootgatherer have just been told from member that Jean's father, Andrew Kyle was brother in law to Margaret Edminton nee Glen which ties in with 1851 census for Agnes Glen

Brigid, although Walter died 1916 , the additional notes on the CWGC website would added sometime after the end of the war. In this case we know now that it was after 1920. You sometimes see records of servicemen killed giving the name of their widow using a different surname if she has remarried sometime after his death but before the records were compiled.

Wondering about this census, but could be a red herring.

1930

Name: James Mac Dermid
[James Macdermid]
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Scotland
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Map of Home: View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1923
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Mac Dermid
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
James Mac Dermid 28
Sarah Mac Dermid 22, Scottish, emigrated 1913
John Mac Dermid 19, brother in law, emigrated 1929
Jean Mac Dermid 3, daughter, b. New Jersey
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James Mac Dermid 0, son, b. New York

Name: John Macdermid
Arrival Date: 10 Apr 1929
Birth Date: abt 1911
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: carmyle
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Greenock, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Albertic
Search Ship Database: Search the Albertic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Thanks Rootgatherer that clears up that conundrum .

so Mrs MacDermid next of kin on 1923 James +Chrissie's passenger list record still can't be their mother
Andrew kyle Macdermid lived til 1964 wonder why he wasn't listed as next of kin so that leaves Duncan or Malcolm's widow or unmarried jeannie
unlikely that any of them were living at the Clydeford road address 12 years earlier
can Census be looked up by addresses on scots census ??.

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2 about Christina M MacDermid
Name: Christina M MacDermid
Birth Date: 5 Apr
Address: 12 Bay St FL 3, Taunton, MA, 02780-2520

A tree on Ancestry has James's wife as Sarah Ross.

Naturalization records

Name: James Macdermid
Age: 26
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1902
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Children: Jean Rose, James Kyle
Naturalization Date: 25 Apr 1928
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Eastern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization


Married 5 December 1925 at Brooklyn, New York to Sarah.

Daughter Jean Rose born 21 February 1929 at Bloomfield, New Jersey. Son James Kyle born 29 January 1930 in Brooklyn, New York.

Name: James Macdermid
SSN: 085-07-1990
Last Residence: 32069 New Smyrna Beach, Volusia, Florida, USA
BORN: 15 Feb 1902
Last Benefit: 32069 New Smyrna Beach, Volusia, Florida, United States of America
Died: Jul 1982
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)




Name: James Kyle Macdermid
Death Date: 15 Jul 1982
County of Death: Volusia
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 80
Race: White
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1902

Name: James K. Macdermid
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1902
Death Date: Jul 1982
Cemetery: Edgewater New Smyrna Cemetery
Burial Place: Edgewater, Volusia County, Florida

Name: Sarah R. Macdermid
SSN: 055-01-2297
Last Residence: 32169 New Smyrna Beach, Volusia, Florida, USA
BORN: 10 May 1907
Died: 16 May 2002
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)


Name: Sarah Ross Macdermid
Age at Death: 95
Birth Date: Abt 1907
Birth Place: Glasgow SCT
Death Date: abt 2002
Death Place: New Smyrna Beach FL
Publication or Record Date: 19 May 2002
Publication or Record Place: United States


Name: Sarah Macdermid
Birth Date: 10 May 1907
Death Date: 16 May 2002
Cemetery: Edgewater New Smyrna Cemetery
Burial Place: Edgewater, Volusia County, Florida

Thanks rootgatherer ; so finally some cousins for my aunt ;

can you tell me what the date of public info about christina m macdermid is ?
and what that document is ;

I'm quite busy today but hope to see alisoun + consolidate what records + info we have already .

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 about James Macdermid
Name: James Macdermid
SSN: 155-20-8618
BORN: 29 Jan 1930
Last Benefit: 07480 West Milford, Passaic, New Jersey, United States of America
Died: Jul 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)


U.S. Veterans


Name: James Macdermid
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1930
Death Date: 16 Jul 1977
SSN: 155208618
Enlistment Date 1: 24 Nov 1950
Release Date 1: 23 Nov 1954




Name: John Macdermid
SSN: 127-12-3074
Last Residence: 32069 New Smyrna Beach, Volusia, Florida, USA
BORN: 12 Aug 1910
Died: Jan 1982
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)


Name: John Macdermid
Death Date: 4 Jan 1982
County of Death: Volusia
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 71
Race: White
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1910

There was no image for the Christina data, sorry. Do you know her exact dAte of birth please?

This may be Sarah. Going with her mother, Sarah aged 46 and brothers Robert and David going to her sister Isabella Livingston in Brooklyn.

Name: Sarah Ross
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1912
Birth Date: abt 1907
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 5
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caledonia
Search Ship Database: Search the Caledonia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

sorry don't have Christinact birth ..just off to alisoun's to check family scroll ..i believe we are connected to Ross family elsewhere too ,