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Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 07:07

I am trying to find what happened to my great grandfather who seems to have disappeared! Very frustrating. I have found all his children that I know of. He was last known to be living in western australia in the late 1800's. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2012 07:27


What was his date and place of Birth please

I live in WA so maybe will be able to find him with more info .

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2012 07:30

Possible connection to your Joseph

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Joseph David Warren Name: Joseph David Warren
Father's Name: Joseph Warren
Mother's name: Mary Lloyd
Birth Place: Champion Bay
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Place: Western Australia
Registration number: 9054

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Oct 2012 08:49

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

(not sure if articles coming up on above, are relating)

Chris :)

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2012 09:02

Chris it looks very likely a match with the one I posted.

INTERCOLONIAL TELEGRAMS. ADELAIDE, December 25. The Inquirer & Commercial News (Perth, WA : 1855 - 1901) Wednesday 31 December 1879 p 3 Article... receiving, Fremantle ; David Hay, expiree, ' laiceny, Perth; Lewis Davis and Thomas Sinclair, expirees, larceny from the person, girl under 12 years of age, Fremantle; Joseph David Warren, expiree, and Elizabeth Warren, sheep stealing, Champion Bay ; Mark Barnett, expiree, larceny from the person

Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 09:42

The Joseph David Warren born in 1866 is my grandfather, its his father Im after. It is him who is reported in the newspaper re the sheep stealing charge with his daughter Elizabeth.

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 09:51

What is it you are looking for?

Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 09:54

I cant find any trace of him after about 1886. There is no death record for him in WA yet I have found all of his children. I dont know if he left the state or perhaps went back to England.

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 09:58

Could you post all the details you have for him please

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 10:03

I see on the birth for his son, the mother is listed as Lloyd but she could have married before Joseph?

Is this your man?


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Joseph Warren
Spouse Name: Mary Shaw
Marriage Place: Champion Bay
Registration Place: Western Australia
Registration Year: 1860
Registration number: 1824


And is this your tree?


Joseph Warren
CHITTENDEN Family Tree
Birth: 16 Mar 1831 - Somerset
Marriage: 1860 first marriage. Second wife Mary LLoyd (2 Jan 1860) - Western Australia
Parents: David Warren, Elizabeth Chick
Spouse: Mary Lloyd

Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 10:13

Yes this is the same person. I was hoping to find out where and when he died and where he was born, his parents etc. I know he was born about 1830 but I don't know where. He was convicted in Guernsey but I dont know if he was born there or in England. I found one piece of information that said he returned to the UK inabout 1891 but it was thought (in the family)that he went to the eastern states.

Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 10:16

I only just saw the information about the Chittenden family tree. That sounds like him. How can I find more from this family. (Im new to Genes Reunited)

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 10:19

1841 England Census
about Joseph Warren
Name: Joseph Warren
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Winsham
Hundred: East Kingsbury
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Chard
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 949
Book: 10
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
David Warren 45
Elizabeth Warren 45
John Warren 20
David Warren 15
Thomas Warren 12
Susan Warren 20
Joseph Warren 10


Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 10:30

Thank you so much for that! Ive been trying to find him for ages His children were all named after his parents and siblings. Now I just need to find what happened to him.

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 10:56

1851 England Census
Name: David Warren
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Warren
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Winsham, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Winsham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Chard
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Piece: 1928
Folio: 190
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
David Warren 56
Elizth Warren 59
Thomas Warren 22
John Warren 34


1861 England Census
Name: David Warren
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Warren
Gender: Male
Where born: Winsham, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Winsham
Ecclesiastical parish: Bath and Wells
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Chard
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 1636
Folio: 148
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
David Warren 66
Elizabeth Warren 67
William Lacey 20

1871 England Census
Name: David Warren
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Warren
Gender: Male
Where born: Winsham
Civil parish: Winsham
Town: Winsham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Chard
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 2406
Folio: 74
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
David Warren 76
Elizabeth Warren 79

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Warren
Name: Elizabeth Warren
Age: 92
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Winsham, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Winsham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address: Back St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Occupation: Out Pauper

Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Chard
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2386
Folio: 162
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Smith 52
Marie Smith 54
Edith Larcombe 2
Elizabeth Warren 92




England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: David Warren
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1874
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Chard
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 319

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Warren
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1881
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Chard
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 302




When did Joseph arrive in Oz?

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 11:09

County Somerset
Place Winsham
Church Parish Church
RegisterNumber 29
MarriageDate 09 Oct 1816
GroomForename David
GroomSurname WARREN
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname CHICK
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname PAYNE
WitnessTwoForename Martha
WitnessTwoSurname MARGRIE
Notes Both Sign X. Witnesses Joseph Hodder; Ann Hockey
FileNumber 16683

County Somerset
Place Winsham
Church Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 11 Jun 1795
Forename David
Sex M
FatherForename Joseph
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname WARREN
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 16681

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 11:26

Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868
Name: Joseph Warren
Vessel: William Hammond
Convicted Date: 28 Jan 1854
Voyage Date: 3 Jan 1856
Colony: Western Australia
Place of Conviction: Guernsey

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2012 13:12

This is a good site for searching burial's in OZ.

There are a lot of town s in OZ and everyone of them has a Cemetery
so be warned

Sue


http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/waus.htm .

Gee

Gee Report 30 Oct 2012 13:29

Have you considered these?

I know he would have been over a 100 years old for the last death posted but his parents lived into their 90s, might be worth sending for the first certificate in the first place............


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Joseph Warren
Death Place: Western Australia
Registration Year: 1916
Registration Place: East Murchison, Western Australia
Registration number: 8

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Joseph Warren
Death Place: Western Australia
Registration Year: 1925
Registration Place: Williams, Western Australia
Registration number: 18


Too old I think!

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Joseph Warren
Death Place: Western Australia
Registration Year: 1937
Registration Place: York, Western Australia
Registration number: 28


Question:

Would a childs death certificate have Joseph's details listed, date of death etc?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Aurey Albert Warren
Death Place: Western Australia
Age: 82
Father's Name: Joseph D
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1956
Registration Place: East Coolgardie, Western Australia
Registration number: 158
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874

Kgee

Kgee Report 30 Oct 2012 16:14

The Joseph Warren from the East Murchison is his son and so is the Aubrey. I have their certificates but it just states the fathers name and no further information on him. He could have returned to England or gone to the eastern states. I have tried searching but havent been able to find anything. I really appreciate the help you've given me. Thank you.