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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Jun 2013 08:12

Hello Dave, welcome to the boards.

The best way to get help with your request is to start a thread of your own rather than tag it onto someone else's query where it may get overlooked.

Go to the first page of Find Ancestors and use "add topic". The Help Clinic (on the left, under Tools) gives some good advice about how to get the best out of your request.

Good luck.

Unknown

Unknown Report 29 Jun 2013 05:33

My wifes father Stanley Winspear born 10th July 1920. Father was Frederick Winspear died around 1945. Stanley emigrated to Australia with his Wife and 3 children. Died Penguin Tasmania 10th May 1982. Understand Frederick was a fishmonger from Hull.
Any assistance valued. Love to fill the gaps
Dave

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 17:21

thanks i just got some of the names off some one i email we deff on right family

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 16:45

Name: Robert Wardle occ Plumber
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Date of Arrival: 28 Jul 1911
Vessel: Virginian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Virginian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4779


Several pages of names so presumably Mary's in there somewhere on a different page but not indexed.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 16:37

From a tree on ancestry for Mary Winspear

1911 21 Sep
Age: 30 Marriage to Robert WARDLE
Winnipeg, Canada

Guess she must have been engaged to him while she was still in England (on 1911 census)?


1916

Name: Mary Wardle
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 35
Est. Birth Year: 1881
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1911
Home in 1916: 30, Winnipeg Centre, Manitoba
Address: 283 King Edward
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Wardle
Sub District Desc.: That portion of the city of Winnipeg constituting the electoral district of Winnipeg Centre, as defined by the Representation Act, 1914
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Wardle 36 Steam fitter b. England
Mary Wardle 35
John Winspear Wardle 1 b. Manitoba

Says both Robert and Mary emigrated 1911.


Name: Mary Wardle
Gender: Female
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Date of Arrival: 5 May 1920
Vessel: Victorian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Victorian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14704


Travelling with John, aged 4 years and Roy aged 3 years


Name: Mary Wardle
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Place: Hartlepool, England
Age: 39
Date of Arrival: May 1920
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Victorian

From image

Previous entry Montreal16.09.1911
Departure date Montreal 26.11.19

Going to husband R. Wardle, 283 King Edward Street.


Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 16:25

yep looks like it thanks so much for your time and help

jennifer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 16:10

Marmaduke and Wallace are brothers of John Winspear born 1846.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 16:09

From Durham records online

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool Frederick Winspear abt 1914 1918 30 Montague Street

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool Frederick Winspear abt 1888 1946 38 Mulgrave Road, West Hartlepool

Baptisms Hartlepool Frederick Winspear 1888 Frederic St., Hartlepool

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool John Winspear abt 1848 1920 Thorpe Street

Baptisms Hartlepool John George Winspear 1878 Frederic St., Hartlepool

Marriages Hartlepool Marmaduke Robinson Winspear abt 1846 1871 West H/Pool

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool Mary Winspear abt 1823 1864 Middleton

Baptisms Hartlepool Race Middleton Winspeare 1860 Hartlepool

Baptisms Hartlepool Robert Winspeare 1877 Frederic St., Hartlepoo

Baptisms Hartlepool Sarah Winspear 1886 Frederic St., Hartlepool

Cemetery Registers Hartlepool Sarah A. Winspear abt 1854 1924 Back View Thorp Street

Baptisms Hartlepool William Winspear 1883 Frederic St., Hartlepool



So the William returning from Canada to Thorpe Street is definately yours too as that is the address in the cemetery registers for his parents?


Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 16:04

ok thanks bit confused as to where they fit on tree as i havebt got a marmaduke
or wallace


ellen or jane

jennifer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:41

1871

Name: John Winspear
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Hartlepool
Town: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 186
Piece: 4915
Folio: 92
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Henderson 36
John Winspear 23 Ship's Carpenter

1861

Name: John Winspear
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Winspear
Mother's name: Mary Winspear
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 19e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 3701
Folio: 100
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspear 45 Shipbuilder Employing (looks like) 40 men & 12 boys
Mary Winspear 38 b.Sutton Hall, Yorkshire, England
Marmaduke R Winspear 17 Ship's Carpenter
John Winspear 14 scholar
Wallace Winspear 6
Race M Winspear 9 Months
Elizabeth Hunter 18 Servant
Elizabeth Shuaton 15 Servant

John (senior) born Whitby, Yorkshire

1851

Name: John Winspear
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Winspear
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 253
Piece: 2384
Folio: 288
Page Number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspear 32 Shipwright employing 20 men
Mary Winspear 27
Marmaduke Winspear 5
John Winspear 3
Ellen Winspear 5 Mo
Jane Winspear 56 Visitor, Shipwright's wife.

1871

Name: John Winspere
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 4917
Folio: 80
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspere 56
Wallace Winspere 15
Race M Wenspean 10
John Brunton 41
Alice Ray 23
Alice Ray 1

1871

Name: John Winspere
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 4917
Folio: 80
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
John Winspere 56 Married (shipbuilder crossed out & Shipwright entered)
Wallace Winspere 15
Race M Wenspean 10
John Brunton 41 Lodger, Shipwright's clerk)
Alice Ray 23 Servant
Alice Ray 1 Boarder

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:07

root gatherer mary winspear i beleive married a robert wardle

emigrated to canada in 1911 there grandaughter contacted me a few yrs back

her gran is my great grans sister


jennifer

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:05

dont know if relation to the book think mary winspear married a robert wardle and move to canada in 1911


thanks for your help

jennifer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:04

I think it it the same William coming home more than once to visit relatives Jennifer.


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 15:02

A tree on Ancestry has this for John Winspear b. 1846

Parents
John Winspear 1816 – 1874
Mary Robinson 1823 – 1864

Spouse & Children
Sarah Ann Clark 1853 – 1924

John George Winspear 1878 –
Robert Winspear 1878 –
Mary Winspear 1881 –
William Winspear 1884 –
Sarah Winspear 1887 –
Frederick Winspear 1889 –
Alice Winsper 1896 –


Parents for Sarah Ann Clark given as
Robert Clark 1822 –
Sarah Knox 1827 –



Not very helpful as there are no sources other than census records given for the information...but then again the tree has over 8,000 names on it so maybe just a name collector rather than family historian!

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 24 Oct 2012 14:58

Very good author (at least I like her books) named Winifred Winspear-any relation ? :-)

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:52

so two william came back or two different ones as two diff dates and ships ?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:52

Birth year a couple of years out but this man is single and a farmer............

1916

Name: William Winspear
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 30
Est. Birth Year: 1886
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1908
Home in 1916: 08, Battle River, Alberta
Address: 38, 5, W4, Hillcrest
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Self
Sub District Desc.: Township 38, ranges 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, W. 4. M.
Household Members: Name Age
William Winspear 30

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:46

yep right family some one contact me 2 yr ago told me some one went canada they related live there now


jennifer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:41

Name: William Winspear , occ. Farmer
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 48
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 10 May 1932
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
[Glasgow]
[Belfast]
Ship Name: Laurentic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 149642


Address he's going to 15 Mulgrave Raod, West Hartlepool. (Note: same Road as given in Frederick's probate gave)

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 24 Oct 2012 14:38

yes fredderick was looking at it my grans uncle im not sure what william did


some one told me ages ago some one from family moved to canada


jennifer