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Anthony
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12 Oct 2012 21:06 |
I hope that someone can help solve this one please. In 01 Jan 1892 edition of Reynolds Newspaper, there is a court report re my gt grandfather Orlando Powell summoned to answer a case brought by Martha Reeves of Leyton, basically for maintenace for their illigitimate child. I have found a Martha Eliza Reeve born in 1867 in Bethnal Green, who appears living with her mother at various addresses in Leyton through until the 1911 census, but no record of the child. The 1911 census is marked no children. Any ideas how the identity of the child; sex unknown; can be found?
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Catherine
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12 Oct 2012 21:12 |
Is this the one you found?
1881 England Census about Martha Reeves Name: Martha Reeves Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Reeves Mother's Name: Jane E. Reeves Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green Civil parish: Leyton Low County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: General Shop
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1727 Folio: 83 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age James Reeves 44 Jane E. Reeves 42 Jane Reeves 19 James Reeves 17 Maryann Reeves 16 Martha Reeves 14 Lydia Reeves 12 Christiana Reeves 10 Jessie Reeves 7 Louise Reeves 5 Thomas Reeves 3 Alice Reeves 2 ........................................... 1891 England Census about Martha E Reeves Name: Martha E Reeves Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Jane E Reeves Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil parish: Leyton Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1348 Folio: 104 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Jane E Reeves 52 Margann Reeves 26 Martha E Reeves 24 Christiana C Reeves 20 Jepe A Reeves 17 Louie H Reeves 15 Alice E Reeves 11 John F Reeves 8 xxx Alice I Tong 4 - Grandaughter born: Tottenham, Middlesex
.........could the child be Alice?
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12 Oct 2012 21:14 |
Is the Martha Eliza Reeve you found in 1911 married ?
I thought the question of children was only asked of married women ?
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PollyPoppet
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12 Oct 2012 21:17 |
is this your great grandfather
1901 Census Household RecordHousehold information Address 350 Brixton Rd Civil Parish Lambeth Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish St Michaels Stockwell Parliamentary Borough or Division Brixton Division Of Lambeth County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Lambeth Administrative County London
Householder 1 Name Isabel Powell Relation to Head of Family Sister In Law Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 30 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Durham Durham Language Infirmity
Householder 2 Name Mabel Powell Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Widow Age Last Birthday 22 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Carlisle Cumberland Language Infirmity
Householder 3 Name Orlando Powell Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 0 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born London Brixton Language Infirmity
Householder 4 Name Orlando Powell Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Head Age Last Birthday 32 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Musician Employment Status Where Born Caldecot Monmouthshire Language Infirmity
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Catherine
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12 Oct 2012 21:22 |
Can't find a birt for Alice I Tong, but there is this:-
Births Mar 1888 (>99%) REEVES Alice Isabella W. Ham 4a 153
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PollyPoppet
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12 Oct 2012 21:22 |
him in 1891
1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address 191, Kennington Road Parish Lambeth District Lambeth, Lambeth Church Second Administrative County London
Householder 1 Name Orlando Powell Age 25 Estimated Year of Birth 1866 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Musical Composer Birth Place Caldicot Birth County Monmouthshire
Householder 2 Name Annetta Soller Age 23 Estimated Year of Birth 1868 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Birth County London
Householder 3 Name Sophia Soller Age 28 Estimated Year of Birth 1863 Relationship to Head of Household Sister Occupation Birth Place Birth County London
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Anthony
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12 Oct 2012 21:24 |
HI Catherine. Yes ths is the one I have assumed to be the lady in question. I seem to recall that Alice Tong is the daughter of one of her married sisters.
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Anthony
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12 Oct 2012 21:24 |
Hi Mike. Yes I agree, but she was not married nor listed as such of the 1911.
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jax
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12 Oct 2012 21:26 |
This has been asked at least once before
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Catherine
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12 Oct 2012 21:31 |
this could be it?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Reeves Name: Reeves Record Type: Birth Estimated Birth Date: 13 Mar 1890 Mother's Name: Martha Reeves Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Born in Bethnal Green Workhouse
Original gives name of child as Caroline! Child is noted as being Illegitimate
..........so looks as though it is her!
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Anthony
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12 Oct 2012 21:31 |
Hi PollyPoppet
Yes this is him again. He appeared twice on the 1901 census once with his wife Annetta and just down the road with Mebel and Isabella. By luck I seem to have matched Mabel as Mabel Sawyer and her sister Isabel as Isabel Sawyer born Carlisle and Co Durham respectively and identical ages. Again here I find no trace of the child albeit there was an Orlando born suthwark about this time but parentage proved to be someone else. I guess the child here may have just been a figment of imagination??
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jax
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12 Oct 2012 21:32 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1239326
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Anthony
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12 Oct 2012 21:34 |
Jax.
Cant recall asking this on the forum before.
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Catherine
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12 Oct 2012 21:35 |
Have edited my previous posting with name of illegitimate child born to Martha Reeves.
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Anthony
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12 Oct 2012 21:36 |
Catherine
Thanks you're a star. Looks as if you could dbe on the right track. I'll do some digging. Thank you
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GRMarilyn
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12 Oct 2012 21:37 |
Wonders if in 1901census.......Orlando Powell has the (child ) living with him & his wife Annetta in Peckham ?
(John Henry Powell b 1891 Lambeth )? although 1901 census states John is b 1892 Lambeth.
Just a suggestion .... :-(
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jax
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12 Oct 2012 21:37 |
well my memory from jan 2011 is better than yours then
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Catherine
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12 Oct 2012 21:39 |
This looks to be the birth record:-
Births Mar 1890 (>99%) Reeves Caroline Bethnal Green 1c 281
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Anthony
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15 Oct 2012 09:37 |
GR Marilyn
Thanks for your imput
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Anthony
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15 Oct 2012 09:44 |
Jax
I bow to your superior memory, 22 months is a long time. I always double check the list of threads I have before posting anything and couldn't find any previous record. However, I may have broached the subject with Anthony Adolf?
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