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Christian Wotherspoon born 23 Feb 1806

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OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 09:35

Can anyone assist me in establishing who Christian Wotherspoon born 23 Feb 1806, married

I have found two marriages and I cannot determine which is the correct one :-(

This is the Christian Wotherspoon in question:-

name: Christian Wotherspoon
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 Mar 1806
baptism/christening place: BARONY,LANARK,SCOTLAND
birth date: 23 Feb 1806
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Wotherspoon
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Janet Spittal
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11968-6
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1041477

These are the two marriages I found on Scotlands People:-

13/05/1827 WOTHERSPOON CHRISTIAN/ALEXANDER GARDNER
(FR760 (FR760) F OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE/LANARK
652/00
0030 0040

Parish of Shotts
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

09/03/1839 WOTHERSPOON CHRISTIAN/MATTHEW ROBERTSON
(FR813 (FR813) F OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE/LANARK
652/00 0030 0139


Crosshill in the Parish of Old Monkland

Thanks,

James

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2012 09:40

1841 Scotland Census
about Christan Gardner
Name: Christan Gardner
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: West Maryston
Parish Number: 652
Household Members: Name Age
Alexr Gardner 34
Christan Gardner 35
Willm Gardner 11
John Gardner 7
Alexr Gardner 10 Mo
Jannet Gardner 13
Mary Gardner 3


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2012 09:42

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1841 Scotland Census
about Christan Gardner
Name: Christan Gardner
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: West Maryston
Parish Number: 652
Household Members: Name Age
Alexr Gardner 34
Christan Gardner 35
Willm Gardner 11
John Gardner 7
Alexr Gardner 10 Mo
Jannet Gardner 13
Mary Gardner 3


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2012 09:44

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1851 Scotland Census
about Christiana Gardner
Name: Christiana Gardner
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alexander Gardner
Gender: Female
Where born: Barony, Lanark
Parish Number: 652
Civil parish: Old Monkland
Town: West Merryston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: West Merryston
Occupation: Labourer Wife
ED: 35
Page: 18 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 63
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_171
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Gardner 44
Christiana Gardner 45
Janet Gardner 22
William Gardner 20
John Gardner 17
Alexander Gardner 10
Elizabeth Gardner 6
Christiana Gardner 4
Thomas Gardner 1


Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2012 09:50

1861 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander Gardner
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Monkland, Lanark
Registration Number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Wotherspoon's Land
Occupation: Boatman
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 137
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1861_118
Household Members: Name Age
Jennet Wotherspoon 55 Spirit Dealer
George Wotherspoon 19 Boatman
Alexander Gardner 20


1871 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander Gardner
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Gardner
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Smellies Land
Occupation: Boatman
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1871_148
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Gardner 29
Jane Gardner 29
John Gardner 3


Im guessing the parents have died by 1861?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2012 10:16

1851 Scotland Census
about Janet Wotherspoon
Name: Janet Wotherspoon
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Old Monkland, Lanark
Parish Number: 652
Civil parish: Old Monkland
Town: West Merryston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: West Merryston
Occupation: Shopkeeper
ED: 35
Page: 26 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 97
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_171
Household Members: Name Age
Janet Wotherspoon 48
George Wotherspoon 9


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2012 10:27

This looks like the couple from the other marriage - so that Christian is too old?

1851

Name: Christiana Robertson
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matthew Robertson
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire
Parish Number: 652
Civil parish: Old Monkland
Town: West Merryston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Rogerfield
ED: 35
Page: 34 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 125
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1851_171
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Robertson 60
Christiana Robertson 61

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 10:31

Gins and PricklyHolly, many thanks for that information, much appreciated.

I looked at the 1841 census earlier today for Alexander Gardner and Christiana Gardner, some of the children's christian names follow the pattern of my Wotherspoon's family names.

However, as they say, once bitten twice shy, so having once followed a wrong trail and ending up having to remove some 20 individuals from my tree, I am reluctant to accept Alexander Gardner as her husband until I am fully convinced he is the correct one.

Regards,

James

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2012 10:36

Hi James

Alex and Christ* son is with this family on the above the census

Jennet Wotherspoon 55 Spirit Dealer
George Wotherspoon 19 Boatman
Alexander Gardner 20

I would guess that Jennet is either a sister of Christ* or sister inlaw

Too much of a coincidence not to be the correct family? Also, Root has found the other couple (Robertson) so that rules out the other marriage

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 10:46

Thanks rootgatherer,

According to FamilySearch.org, the Matthew Robertson I referred to, married a Christian Wotherspoon, see below:-

spouse: Christian Wotherspoon
groom's name: Matthew Robertson
bride's name: Christian Wotherspoon
marriage date: 09 Mar 1839
marriage place: Old Monkland,Lanark,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11652-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1066602

Thanks for your input,

James

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Oct 2012 10:59

Hi James,
Just catching up on this.
I agree with the others, this is the family of Christian Wotherspoon and Alexander Gardner.
Looking at this family, I would also agree that Christian was the daughter of John Wotherspoon and Janet Spittal.
The bigger question remains.... Was her father John Wotherspoon definitely the son of George Wotherpoon and Christian Burnett???
I can't see the name George appearing as either a sibling of her father or herself.

Anne

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 11:09

Thank Gins,

I am browsing around at the moment to see if I can link Jennet Wotherspoon 55 and George Wotherspoon 19, with any of those on my tree.

Regards,

James

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2012 11:17

Is this your tree at Ancestry? They have Christ as the second child born to John & Janet - verified with a copy of the baptisim


John WOTHERSPOON
1783 – 1840
Janet SPITTAL
1778 – 1850
Show siblings Hide siblings Spouse & ChildrenAlexander GARDNER
1806 –
Janet GARDNER
1829 –
William GARDNER
1831 –
John GARDNER
1834 –
Alexander GARDNER
1841 –
Elizabeth GARDNER
1845 –
Christiana GARDNER
1847 –
Thomas GARDNER
1850 –

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Oct 2012 11:22

Hi James,
I take it back.....
John Wotherspoon and Janet Spitall DID have a son called George!
Born 14 Jan 1808 in Old Monkland.

He was most likely the eldest son..... you are back on track as his father John Wotherspoon will be the son of George Wotherspoon and Christian Burnett

Anne

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2012 11:27

I wonder if this is the same George from the 1851 that Prickles posted?

Same address


1841 Scotland Census
about George Wotherspon
Name: George Wotherspon
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: West Maryston
Parish Number: 652
Household Members: Name Age
Robt Wotherspon 30 Boatman
Martha Wotherspon 20
George Wotherspon 2
Martha Wotherspon 7 Mo
Edward Docherty 20 Boatman


Edit: no its not the same one as this guy appears on the 1851 census :-(

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Oct 2012 11:36

Children of John Wotherspoon and Janet Spittal

Isobell b 25 Nov 1804. Old Monkland
Christian b 23 Feb 1806 Barony
GEORGE b 14 Jan 1808 Old Monkland (missing from your tree)
James b 15 Aug 1809 Glasgow
John b 14 Jul 1811 Old Monkland
Janet b 28 Nov 1819 Old Monkland
Elizabeth b 18 Apr 1821 Old Monkland

The naming pattern is perfect for the father of these children to be the son of George Wotherspoon and Christian Burnett

Anne

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2012 11:47

No wonder I couldnt find Janet in 1841!!


1841 Scotland Census
about George Wothespon
Name: George Wothespon
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: New Maryston
Occupation: Boatman
Parish Number: 652
Household Members: Name Age
George Wothespon 40
Jannett Wothespon 40


OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 12:23

Hello Anne and Gins,

I think I am might be getting somewhere, does this make sense, my George Wotherspoon married to Christian Burnett was the son of Robert Wotherspoon.

That George Wotherspoon had a brother John Wotherspoon b1764 and that John Wotherspoon married a Christian Mclearan on 15 Sep 1798, he was the father of George Wotherspoon b1801 who married a Jennet/Jannet/Janet Robertson in 1838, or maybe I have lost the plot again.

However his marriage to Christian Mclearan may be questionable as she is shown on a Family Search.org Ancestral File as being married to his father Robert Wotherspoon :-(

James

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 14:45

These are the records that made me say that John Wotherspoon's marriage to Christian Mclearan may be questionable as she is shown on a Family Search.org Pedigree Resource File as being married to his father Robert Wotherspoon, in my wildest dreams I cannot believe his wife and mother had the same names.

Family Search.org Pedigree Resource File:-

gender: Male
birth: 1734
of Craighead,Lanarks.,Scotland
AFN: 3C33-L9J
Parents
father: George Wotherspoon (AFN: 3C41-D5H )
mother: Mrs Wotherspoon (AFN: 3C41-H00 )
Marriages (1)
spouse: Christian MC LEARAN (AFN: 3C33-Q1K )
marriage: 1775
of Wanflit,Old Monk,Lanark,Scotland

and yhen there is this:-

Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910 Records:-

spouse: John Wotherspoon
groom's name: John Wotherspoon
bride's name: Christian Mclearan
marriage date: 15 Sep 1798
marriage place: , Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11652-2
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1066602, 0102961

No wonder I get confused :-(

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 10 Oct 2012 15:18

Hi Gins,

This tree is not mine:-

John WOTHERSPOON
1783 – 1840
Janet SPITTAL
1778 – 1850
Show siblings Hide siblings Spouse & ChildrenAlexander GARDNER
1806 –
Janet GARDNER

Regards,

James