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any one out there for your help , i am trying to trace my family back as far as i can,from james douglas born 1830 in salisburyhis father was james born abt 1775, robert douglas born 1750/1783. in scotland, i may have the dates wrong,i am asking for your help please. yvonne.

Hi Yvonne,
Scotlandspeople would be the place to go....unfortunately it is pay as you go.

Regards Vera

No help with the census

DUGLASS, James M 12 1829 Wiltshire VIEW

Piece: 1190 Book/Folio: 7/39 Page: 1 Registration District: Salisbury Civil Parish: St Thomas Municipal Borough: Salisbury Address: Workhouse For The City Of Salisbury, St Thomas, Salisbury County: Wiltshire

Is this him in 1851?

Name: James Douglas
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Nephew
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Salisbury

Civil parish: St George Bloomsbury
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 1507
Folio: 138
Page Number: 8

H Wm Douglas 37
Ann Douglas 28
All Douglas 6
Julia Douglas 4
James Douglas 21

So his Uncle was William born Salisbury in 1820. Are you sure his father was born in 1775?

DOUGLAS, William Head Married M 31 1820 Tailor
Salisbury VIEW
DOUGLAS, Ann Wife Married F 28 1823
Salisbury VIEW
DOUGLAS, Alfred Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Cripplegate, Middlesex VIEW
DOUGLAS, Julia Daughter F 4 1847
London VIEW
DOUGLAS, James Nephew Unmarried M 21 1830 Porter
Salisbury VIEW

Piece: 1507 Folio: 139 Page: 8 Registration District: St Giles in the Fields & St George Bloomsbury Civil Parish: Saint George Bloomsbury Municipal Borough: Finsbury Address: 18, Woburn Place, Saint George Bloomsbury, Finsbury County: Middlesex


Williams father was James

parents: James Douglas,? Mary
name: William Douglas
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Aug 1819
baptism/christening place: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
birth date: 21 Aug 1819
father's name: James Douglas
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C01378-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279311

Do you have James's marriage certificate? If not, where did you find his father's name?

Could this be his marriage in London? In 1861 census his wife is shown as Sarah.

Marriages Sep 1853 (>99%)
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BAYLY James St Martin 1a 579
>>>>>>DOUGLAS James St Martin 1a 579
LEVETT Frances St Martin 1a 579
>>>>>SUTTON Sarah S.Martin 1a 579

On the marriage certificate what was his father's occupation please and who were the witnesses?
Don't worry about the other couple on the marriage registration they are nothing to do with your people. Their marriage is just transcribed to the same page and volume in the registry.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1308512

Yvonne.

James Bayly and Frances Lovett are on the same page in the marriage register (there are usually two marriages per page). St Martins is the Registration district where the marriages took place and 1a 579 are the volume and page numbers for the entries in the GRO index. You would need them if you order certs from the GRO.

As you have the marriage cert, please could you give us all the info from it - father's names and occupations; bride and groom's ages, occupations and addresses, and the witnessess.

As Reggie said on your other thread, you need to work backwards methodically. As to other people's trees, always check everything yourself - there are a lot of incorrect trees out there.

James and Sarah in 186? James is druggist warehousman:

1861 England Census
about James Douglas
Name: James Douglas
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Douglas
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Southwark St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub-registration district: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 327
Folio: 59
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
James Douglas 32
Sarah Douglas 29
Sophia Douglas 5
James Douglas 4
Sarah A Douglas 1

In 1841, James appears to be in the workhouse:

1841 England Census
about James Douglass
Name: James Douglass
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: St Thomas
Hundred: New Sarum
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address: City of Salisbury workhouse

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Salisbury
Sub-registration district: Salisbury

HI. am i right when you are saying james douglas born 1829/30/his parents were james douglas and mary. abery.the chilren were elizabeth born 6/9/1807 wiltshire. and eliza born 14/6/1809 salibury. william born 1819 salibury.then james born 1829/30. .by that times there parents would have been 53 55 years when james was born,so there must have been ather children.or the parents were james douglas. and mother.yvonne.

HI can you anser my last email please. and did william robert keith douglas married elizabeth seriven. and elizabeth irvine,do they come in the douglas tree please, any children.please. and how do james born 1829/30/fit in,i can not go by any ones trees, all the best. yvonne.

Yvonne

We can't possibly know who is in your tree............you must work back from yourself............checking everything as you go

HI i have seen some one tree, and they has my grgrfather james douglas born 1830 salisbury married to sarah sutton 14/8/1852 in fields. harney. oregon usa. sarah died 23/11/1893 age 61 ,his father was william douglas born 1770 claverton.warwickshire england. married to a dorothy currall on the 1815 . also emigration in 1815. connecticut, usa, and william death 1853 16/1/, england.they have all the childrens name, william douglas born 15/6/1819 salisbury death in 9/1 /1904 england, marries ann quinn.in1837 england. . i have william married to ann redman.and the chilren are the same.can you help please. i have william and ann redman marrage certificit. now i do not if i have the right one it has taken me abt five years to try and get this right. please can you help . yvonne,

Don't take any notice of anyone else's tree..........I'm sure that advice has been given before.

Work back from yourself...................it's the ONLY way to do it properly

hi i had william douglas born 1819 and one child afred ashford . i do not know whats gone wrong i had of the ashford on but to night there gone, i had james ashford born 1814 married mary shannaw,,that gone, any help please, yvonne,

HI .would you please help. henry franklin born abt 1801 wheathamstead herts. marrage to a jane born abt 1793 wheathamstead. herts. had a daughter jane born abt 1837.when married, born and death if possible. , williamfranklin born 1779 wheathamstead.married marrued a elizabeth. thank you , yvonne,

The man born 1801 who produced a child in 1837 will have his death recorded on freebmd...............look for it yourself

name: Henry Franklin
age: 74
gender: Male
birth year: 1807
birthplace: Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Farm Labourer Thatcher
address: Hamwell
census place: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

head Henry Franklin M 74 Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England
wife Jane Franklin F 83 Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England
daughter Jane Franklin F 44 Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England
visitor Ann Hills F 41 Hertford, Hertfordshire, England