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Shirley
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28 Sep 2012 00:51 |
Hi I wonder if anyone can find evidence of an arndall hocking moving to america, maybe fall river or massachusetts around 1900? he married for the second time to ellen kay in burnley lancs, then i find no trace of him , bur did hear he moved to america. hopefully shirley :-)
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GlitterBaby
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28 Sep 2012 01:08 |
Born when and where ?
Last location ?
Any children ?
His occupation ?
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28 Sep 2012 01:14 |
1863 Lelant, Cornwall
Married 1891 and 1900 in Burnley
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28 Sep 2012 01:16 |
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 Name: Arndall Hocking Date of Trial: 12 Jul 1888 Trial Year: 1888 Location of Trial: Lancashire, England Sentence: Imprisonment
Name: Arndall Hocking Age: 36 Birth Year: abt 1864 Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1900 Parish: Burnley, St Matthew Spouse: Ellen Kay Spouse Age: 22 Father: Richard Hocking Spouse Father: Howorth Kay Reference Number: Pr 3106/1/6
1901 Name: Armdall Hocking Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen Hocking Gender: Male Where born: Lelant, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Burnley Ecclesiastical parish: Habergham Eaves St Matthew County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Burnley Sub-registration district: West Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 199 Piece: 3871 Folio: 42 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Armdall Hocking 37 Ellen Hocking 22 Doris Hocking 5
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Shirley
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28 Sep 2012 01:28 |
Thankyou, yes thasts them. at least i now know he was still in burnley in 1901. I think he moved to america and i think he moved there with his brother perhaps, walter hocking, born around 1869 in cornwall ,. Walter married emma lockett in 1893 in burnley and i can find no deaths etc of them either. thanks for that glitterbaby. Its interesting that he had a criminal record, i guess that would not stop him in those days from moving to america? thanks again for that. :-)
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Shirley
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28 Sep 2012 01:28 |
Thankyou, yes thasts them. at least i now know he was still in burnley in 1901. I think he moved to america and i think he moved there with his brother perhaps, walter hocking, born around 1869 in cornwall ,. Walter married emma lockett in 1893 in burnley and i can find no deaths etc of them either. thanks for that glitterbaby. Its interesting that he had a criminal record, i guess that would not stop him in those days from moving to america? thanks again for that. :-)
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Shirley
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28 Sep 2012 01:29 |
Thankyou, yes thasts them. at least i now know he was still in burnley in 1901. I think he moved to america and i think he moved there with his brother perhaps, walter hocking, born around 1869 in cornwall ,. Walter married emma lockett in 1893 in burnley and i can find no deaths etc of them either. thanks for that glitterbaby. Its interesting that he had a criminal record, i guess that would not stop him in those days from moving to america? thanks again for that. :-)
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28 Sep 2012 01:37 |
No got a sub at the moment to FMP
Female Hocking 1878 Male - A Hocking 1864 Annie Hocking 1901 Bores Hocking 1895 - male
Travelled from Glasgow to New York in 1901
But no idea if right family
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28 Sep 2012 01:40 |
Would appear he got imprisoned for one day for forging a telegram ??
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28 Sep 2012 01:44 |
1900 US census has an entry for Walter Hocking and Emma but not got the right sub on Ancestry to view it
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28 Sep 2012 01:49 |
Name: Walter Hocking Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1869 Marriage Date: 11 Feb 1893 Parish: Habergham Eaves, Holy Trinity Spouse: Emma Lockett Spouse Age: 21 Father: Richard Hocking Spouse Father: George Lockett Reference Number: Pr 3098/1/21
Occupation of commercial traveller
Name: Walter Hocking Birth Date: abt 1869 Age: 25 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 12 May 1894 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Lucania Search Ship Database: View the 'Lucania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: No owner or agent listed Official Number: 102105
Occupation of traveller
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Shirley
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28 Sep 2012 01:50 |
hI THANKS GLITTER BABY. LOOKING LIKE MAYBE WALTER AND EMMA GOT TO AMERICA FIRST THEN. i KNOW ANOTHER BROTHER, WILLIAM J WHO DIED IN 1900 IN ENGLAND HAD FAMILY WHO ALL ENDED UP LIVING IN AMERICA, BUT HIS WIDOWED WIFE DIED IN CANADA. SO I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE THEY MOVED THERE TO BE WITH WALTER AND ARNDALLS FAMILY. THANKS GLITTERBABY, YOUVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL. REGARDS SHIRLEY
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GlitterBaby
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28 Sep 2012 01:53 |
You could do with a member with FMP sub or can look at US records on Ancestry because I can not go any further.
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28 Sep 2012 02:25 |
passenger transcript details Name: Mr A HOCKING Date of departure: 3 October 1901 Port of departure: Glasgow Passenger destination port: New York, USA Passenger destination: New York, USA Date of Birth: 1864 (calculated from age) Age: 37 Marital status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Shoemaker Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 7
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Mrs HOCKING Page 1 of 7 View transcript Annie HOCKING Page 2 of 7 View transcript Bores HOCKING Page 2 of 7 View transcript
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: ASTORIA 0 Wilson Anchor Line Of Mail Steamships New York, USA 9495 3228 298
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Sep 2012 04:21 |
from the Ellis Island site ........ a free site. You have to register with them to see the passenger lists, and ship's manifest
www.ellisisland.org
First Name: Emma Last Name: Hocking Ethnicity: England, English Last Place of Residence: Burnley, Date of Arrival: Sep 25, 1895 Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status: Ship of Travel: Teutonic Port of Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0131
from image of ship's manifest ............
Walter Hocking, 26, Traveller, Burnley
Emma, Weaver
Both going to Boston, intending to become Permanent Residents
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Sep 2012 04:40 |
Is this Emma returning to the UK
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Emma Hocking
Name: Emma Hocking Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 14 Sep 1910 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ship Name: Oceanic Search Ship Database: View the 'Oceanic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: White Star Line Official Number: 110596
She's accompanied by children :--
Hilda Arthur George
no ages given.
She describes herself as "wife"
They then returned to the US ...... from Ellis Island
First Name: Emma Last Name: Hocking Ethnicity: England, English Last Place of Residence: Devenport, England Date of Arrival: Sep 20, 1911 Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: F Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Oceanic Port of Departure: Southampton Manifest Line Number: 0001
Address in England:-
Mother and Grandmother Mrs Pugsley 92 (can't decipher street name) Ave Keyham, Devonport
OOOOPS
Probably NOT yours ........... they are returning to Husband and Father,
T (or F) Hocking 79 Washington Street New York
and they had all been born in Devonport
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29 Sep 2012 05:51 |
You can search 1900/40 (and view images) at: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
name: Emma Hocking titles & terms: event: Census event date: 1900 event place: ED 154 Fall River city (incl. City Hospital) Ward 8, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States birth date: Feb 1871 birthplace: Massachusetts relationship to head of household: Wife father's birthplace: England mother's birthplace: England race or color (standardized): White gender: Female marital status: Married years married: 8 estimated marriage year: 1892 mother how many children: 1 number living children: 1 immigration year: page: 5 sheet letter: A family number: 41 reference number: 17 film number: 1240636 digital folder number: 004113821 image number: 00431 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Walter Hocking M 31 England wife Emma Hocking F 29 Massachusetts daughter Ethel G Hocking F 4 Massachusetts Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M95L-FX7 : accessed 29 Sep 2012), Emma Hocking in household of Walter Hocking, ED 154 Fall River city (incl. City Hospital) Ward 8, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States; citing sheet 5A, family 41, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1240636. [Walter was a Collector - Insurance immig 1893 - Ethel's pob=MA]
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Sep 2012 07:45 |
Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Name: Ellen Hocking Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1903 Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Gender: Female Ethnic Background: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Saxonia Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name: Arndell Hocking (Husband, 15, Beetle Gdns?) Last Residence: N Bedford Fall River
(with her looks, Doris 8 and Annie)
Chris :)
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Shirley
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29 Sep 2012 12:05 |
Thanks guys, youve been great. So looks like walter and emma came first, then came arndall , followed by ellen and the kids. Im going to try and track them in fall river now. youve been really helpful, thanks. shirley :-)
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Shirley
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3 May 2021 21:42 |
How can I discover what happened to these hockings once tgey got to massachusetts? Is there a way to check deaths et. :-)
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