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The mystery of Lillie-no longer-now seeking Fursey

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Christine

Christine Report 30 Oct 2012 22:34

Yes it does doesn't it. How sad for that family to lose father and son within such a short time. Reginald would have been Lillie Jane's first cousin. It seems impossible that she wouldn't have known him. This has turned out to be a very military based family. My brother-in-law (Lillie's grandson) has sent for the death certificate for Frank Wiltshire, so we will soon know how he died.

Christine

Christine Report 23 Jan 2013 17:08

Hello everyone. I have picked this family up again after a break. I have concluded that John Fursey was, in all probability, Lillie Jane's real father but have not been able to find him anywhere in census returns - although this is something of a problem because I am still unable to upgrade my GR membership - keep coming up with an error.

To recap, Jane Wiltshire married John Fursey, widower in 1893. His wife Susan died 3 months beforehand. I did find a marriage for a John Fursey to a Susan Thrush in 1888- which would fit - and I have just received the certificate. The wedding took place in Aldershot, 15/7/1888 and he is shown as of full age and the occupation is Hospital Corps. I have googled Hospital Corps and this term was used during the right period, so if he was in the army, this would explain the lack of census information, I think. I have tried the National Archives site, but can't get anything up about it specifically. Any ideas anyone?

Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Jan 2013 19:01



??

British Army Service Records 1760-1915


First name(s): John
Last name: FURSEY
Calculated year of birth: 1857
Parish of birth: Crewkerne
Town of birth: Crewkerne
County of birth: Somerset
Age at attestation: 18 years 10 months
Attestation date: 18 January 1875
Attestation corps: 43RD BRIGADE
Attestation soldier number: 4349
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 2846 / 44


There are 6 images available for this soldier


transferred to the Hospital Corps in 1886 - discharged in 1889

Father - Thomas (address reads (I think) - Osmington, Weymouth, Dorset



1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 2013
Folio: 76
Page: 11
Reg. District: Dorchester
Sub District: Maiden Newton
Parish: Frampton
Enum. District: 5C
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cottage, Frampton
County: Dorsetshire

FURZEY, Thomas Head M 56 1815 Dorset
FURZEY, Sarah A Wife F 54 1817 Dorset
>>>>>FURZEY, John Son M 16 1855 Dorset



1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 2103
Folio: 109
Page: 16
Reg. District: Weymouth
Sub District: Upway
Parish: Osmington
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cottages, Osmington
County: Dorsetshire



FURZEY, Thomas Head Married M 68 1813 Ag Labourer
Marshwood, Dorset
FURZEY, Sarah Wife Married F 67 1814
Swyre, Dorset
GRIFFIN, Ada Grand Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Frampton, Dorset



Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Jan 2013 19:41



Brentford area ?


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: John Fursey
Year: 1898
County or Borough: Hounslow
Ward or Division/Constituency: Brentford
Street Address: 4, Cambridge-road, Hounslow


still there in 1899




possibly -

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: John Fursey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Staines
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 11




Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Jan 2013 21:00



completely at odds with what I've posted above!


??

1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 1024
Folio: 15
Page: 23
Reg. District: Brentford
Sub District: Isleworth
Parish: Isleworth
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, Manor Cottages, Inverness Road, Isleworth, Hounslow
County: Middlesex


HURSEY, John T Head Married M 34 1857 Farm Labourer
Southampton, Hampshire
HURSEY, Susan Wife Married F 28 1863
Wandsworth, Middlesex

Christine

Christine Report 23 Jan 2013 22:43

Choccy that's brilliant! It's obviously the right person all the way through. I had thought that the 1891 was going to be my best chance to find him, but the fact that he's shown as Hursey explains why I couldn't. I knew he was in Hounslow in 1893, and I had found a reference to his wife Susan (nee Thrush) being born in Wandsworth. His father is shown as Thomas on the marriage cert, so it all ties up. You have set me off on the right track and I'm so grateful.

The only place I can check census information at the moment is Familysearch which isn't really satisfactory - you can only check one person at a time - not family groups! I shall be glad when they sort out the problem with my account.

Do you have to have a subscription to find the army records? I couldn't find anything like that on the National Archives site. I can't afford Ancestry at the moment.

I'm off to bed now ( with a smile on my face!), but will check in tomorrow morning.

Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Jan 2013 22:57



Will send the army records (6 pages) by PM :-)


Christine

Christine Report 24 Jan 2013 11:02

Thank you - you're a star!