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Susan
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15 Sep 2012 16:54 |
I just wondrered if anyb ody could help me please I am trying to find a marriage between my Aunt Marian Dewing b 1906 Lewisham London to my Uncle Harold/Harry Elliott b 1902???? am struggling a little
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Susan
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15 Sep 2012 16:57 |
Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%) Dewing Miriam Elliott Deptford 1d 1722 xxxxxx Elliott Henry G Dewing Deptford 1d 1722 Meloy Rosina Pullen Deptford 1d 1722 Pullen Sidney J Meloy Deptford 1d 1722
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Jacqueline
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15 Sep 2012 17:11 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Miriam Jessie Dewing Name: Miriam Jessie Dewing Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898 Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 17
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Marian Dewing Name: Marian Dewing Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906 Registration district: Greenwich Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 965
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Susan
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17 Sep 2012 08:09 |
Hello Jacqueline and sfc thank you for the info must admit am struggling a little cos I always thought my aunts name was Marie BUT possibly it is Miriam heard my mother refer to an Aunt Miriam?? perhaps one of the same?? and my uncle was Harry?? perhaps these ARE one of the same people do u think?
Sorry to be a nuisance
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Susan
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PricklyHolly
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17 Sep 2012 08:44 |
Is this her with her parents in 1911..........
?? Household transcription 1911 census Person: DEWING, Marion Address: 34 Bronze St S E
DEWING, James Head Married M 41 1870 House Decorator Deptford London VIEW DEWING, Priscilla Wife Married18 years F 40 1871 Deptford London VIEW DEWING, Matilda D'ghter F 14 1897 Deptford London VIEW DEWING, Marion D'ghter F 5 1906 Deptford London VIEW DEWING, Priscilla D'ghter F 3 1908 Deptford London VIEW JEFFERIES, Ellen Boarder Married18 years F 37 1874 Deptford London VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 2636 Reference: RG14PN2636 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED13 SN59 Registration District: Greenwich Sub District: Deptford East Enumeration District: 13 Parish: St Paul Deptford Address: 34 Bronze St S E County: London (8 children born, 5 living, 3 had died)
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17 Sep 2012 08:46 |
I think this could be Miriam in 1911:
Miriam Dewing Age in 1911: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Alduth Road, Thornford Civil parish: East Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 271 Green St, Forest Gate Marital Status: Single Registration district: West Ham Registration District Number: 188 Sub-registration district: North East Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 5 Piece: 9561 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Dewing 50 Hariette Dewing 43 Florence Dewing 20 Miriam Dewing 13
And Marion - a different family:
Marion Dewing Age in 1911: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: DEPTFORD, England Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 34 Bronze Street, Deptford SE Registration district: Greenwich Registration District Number: 28 Sub-registration district: Deptford East ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Piece: 2636 Household Members: Name Age James Dewing 41 Priscilla Dewing 40 Matilda Dewing 14 Marion Dewing 5 Priscilla Dewing 3 Ellen Jefferies 37 So you need to decide which is the one you are looking for.
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Sarah
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17 Sep 2012 10:55 |
I have found in my tree that many of the men called Henry used Harry interchangeably.
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Sarah
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17 Sep 2012 10:58 |
Do you know what Marion/Marie/Miriam's siblings were called?
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Susan
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17 Sep 2012 21:01 |
thank u everyone that has searched for me Flip/Prickly Holly this is my Aunt with her parents also Matilda was my aunt Tilly Priscilla was also my Auntie.
Sarah thats what confused me cos I was lookinjg for my Uncle Harry but as u say its possible that he may have been born Henry??? also i never knew her as Marian they were Matilda Priscilla. Then Auntie Marian? had children Rose, George Elliott
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Susan
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Susan
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22 Sep 2012 09:35 |
Hello Sarah my Aunts siblings were Matilda who was the eldest and Priscilla Charlotte x have found in 1911 Census says children born 8 5 still alive BUT theres only my 3 aunts? HOW do i discover or WHERE do i discover the other 2?? also shows 3 children died? i NEVER EVER knew anything about these other children all my mummy mentioned was my 3 aunts Matilda Marian/Miriam and Priscilla?
Any advice greatfully received
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Susan
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Flip
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22 Sep 2012 09:57 |
I hoped their other children would show up on 1901 census, but don't - they just have Matilda.
James Dewing Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Priscilla E Dewing Gender: Male Where born: Deptford, London, England Civil parish: Deptford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St John Deptford County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Deptford, South ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 534 Folio: 41 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age James Dewing 32 Priscilla E Dewing 32 Mathilda Dewing 4
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22 Sep 2012 10:04 |
Looks like they had been together more than 18 years by the 1911 census - another child, Elizabeth in 1891:
James Dewing Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Priscilla Dewing Gender: Male Where born: Deptford, Kent, England Civil parish: St Paul Deptford Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Town: Deptford County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 495 Folio: 18 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age James Dewing 20 Priscilla Dewing 20 Elizabeth Dewing 1 Their marriage?Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dewing James Greenwich 1d 1489 Jones Priscilla Greenwich 1d 1489 Wells Edith Jane Greenwich 1d 1489 Wilson James Greenwich 1d 1489
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patchem
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22 Sep 2012 10:11 |
Slightly later marriage: Marriages Jun 1893 xxx Dewing James Greenwich 1d 1489 xxx Jones Priscilla Greenwich 1d 1489 Wells Edith Jane Greenwich 1d 1489 Wilson James Greenwich 1d 1489
so Elizabeth not born Dewing (could not find)
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patchem
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22 Sep 2012 10:21 |
Does not really make sense, but cannot see a birth: Deaths Sep 1892 Dewing Elizabeth 3 Maidstone 2a 370
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22 Sep 2012 11:56 |
This could be Priscella with her parents in 1881 - note she has a sister Charlotte which could be relevant as one of her children had the middle name of Charlotte:
Priscilla Jones Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Jones Mother's Name: Esther Jones Gender: Female Where born: Deptford, Kent, England Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 43 Hamilton St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 704 Folio: 108 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age George Jones 43 Esther Jones 43 Thomas Jones 20 Oliver Jones 13 Priscilla Jones 11 William Jones 6 Isabella Jones 3 Charlotte Jones (age 2 months)
And possibly James with his family in 1881: Jas. Dewin [Jas. Dewing] Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Son Father's Name: Geo. R.N. Dewin Mother's Name: Caroline Dewin Gender: Male Where born: Deptford, Kent, England Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 9 Tanners Hill Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 711 Folio: 87 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Geo. R.N. Dewin 40 <<bricklayers labourer Caroline Dewin 34 Henry Dewin 13 Thos. Dewin 11 Jas. Dewin 9 John Dewin 6 Joseph Dewin 3 Arthur Dewin 1 All children born Depford, but parents pob N/K
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22 Sep 2012 12:06 |
This is probably Caroline in 1911, the return is a bit of a mess:
Caroline Dewing Age in 1911: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: England [Deptford, St Paul's] Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 112 Tanners Hill, Deptford S E Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: LAUNDRESS Registration district: Greenwich Registration District Number: 28 Sub-registration district: Deptford South ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Piece: 2663 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Dewing 66 William Dewing 24 -her son Alice Dewing 24 - William's wife, they have no children Mary Dewing - daughter in law (age unknown) m 7 years 3 children, 2 alive Caroline Phyllis Dewing 6 Nellie Dewing 2 Rebecca Dewing 30 - daughter George Dewing 9 <<<< listed as nephews, but these could be James's children as I think they are listed as Rebecca's nephews. William Dewing 3 <<<< ditto above Lenard Cook 24 son in law, married 4 years, 1 child Sophia Cook 26 Lenard's wife Lenard Cook 2
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22 Sep 2012 12:34 |
Hi Susan,
Thanks for the PM, yes you're right it's quite a confusing family. I think you would need to investigate individual family members to see which children born during the period relate to which parents.
There's another possible birth after the 1911 census to Dewing/Jones, in mid 1911 they started recording the mmn & I can't see another Dewing/Jones marriage in the local area.:
Births Dec 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dewing Mary Jones Greenwich 1d 1836
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22 Sep 2012 12:41 |
Patchem,
This could be the birth of Elizabeth, would have been 1 on 1891 census and would match the death you've found (as her parents weren't married at the time of her birth):
Births Dec 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 989
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22 Sep 2012 12:46 |
George & Carolines marriage?
George Robert Dewing Spouse Name: Caroline West Record Type: Banns Event Date: 23 Aug 1863 Parish: Rotherhithe All Saints Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Register
No other details given on register though
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Susan
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22 Sep 2012 13:21 |
Hi Flip and \Patchem yes youre RIGHT WHAT a confusing family just began as looking for my beautiful AUNT and WHACK!!!!!!!!! youre right will have to take a step at a time
I suppose it just takes time and not overnight
Kind regards
Thank you for ALL your help
Susan
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