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Not seeing your mother on the 1911 at the moment

If you dont have the births or marriage certs you should purchase them to find out the mothers maiden names to go back further without making mistakes

1911 England Census
about Grace Henderson
Name: Grace Henderson
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Plaistow, Essex
Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 41 Coronation Road, Plaistow E
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Household schedule number: 230
Piece: 9448
Household Members: Name Age
James R Henderson 39
Elizabeth Henderson 39
Ethel Henderson 20
James Henderson 18
Arthur Benjamin Henderson 7
Grace Henderson 4

my goodness this is so much info i got tears thank you.

This could be clarence's parent marriage...they may have lied on the census??

Marriages Dec 1914 (>99%)
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Long William R Reeve W.Ham 4a 768
REEVE Mary H Long W. Ham 4a 768


I would not take my word for it...purchase the birth certs from gro

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

what is gro.

i tryed all searches on here for marrages biths and deaths and can not find any thing to do with any of the hendersons above.

use freebmd for births marriages and deaths up to about 1960 at the moment

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

GRO is where you order certificates from they will cost £9.25 each... I have given the link above

Your fathers death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Clarence George Long
Name: Clarence George Long
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1909
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1971
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5f
Page: 1289

how do i get my mums, mum and dad on a document with grace as well. ie birth certificate.

You need to register with GRO and order this birth certificate using the details given here

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Grace Rosa Henderson
Name: Grace Rosa Henderson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 68

i didnt even know i had a uncle robert william long i was never told that.

It looks like he died young

Deaths Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Long Robert W 0 W.Ham 4a 17



Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Long Robert W W.Ham 4a 328

jax do you think may be there is a spelling mistake as the clarence on the transcript is spelt clarance.

sorry clarancs not clarence.

you have to remember a lot of our ancestors were illiterate and did spell things wrong

My gt grandfather recorded my grandmother as Elsey when it should have been Elsie

Also their writing was bad and the transcribers have to record what they see even if they think it is wrong

Back to this now dinner is all done.

it looks as though Mary had been previously married.

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
Bruty Rose W. Ham 4a 401
>>Davey Mary Harriet W. Ham 4a 401
Lovell William George W. Ham 4a 401
>>Reeve Sidney Herbert W W. Ham 4a 401

Which means that these later births could be your relatives


Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Long Arthur R Davey W.Ham 4a 29

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Long Olive E H Davey W.Ham 4a 671

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Long Rose E Davey W.Ham 4a 82


This will be Mary Harriet's birth

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
Davey Mary Harriett Camberwell 1d 835

Here are Sidney and Mary in 1901

REEVE, Sidney Head Married M 28 1873 Carpenter's Laborer
Brampton, Oxfordshire VIEW
REEVE, Mary Wife Married F 22 1879
Peckham, London VIEW

Piece: 1571 Folio: 102 Page: 33 Registration District: West Ham Civil Parish: West Ham Municipal Borough: Address: 260, Queen's Road, West Ham County: Essex

Sidney died in 1903

Name: REEVE, Sydney Herbert W
Registration district: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1903
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:30
Volume no: 4A Page no: 4