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Herbert Lea - Born Circa 1863 Derbyshire/Staffs

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Tracy

Tracy Report 22 Aug 2012 22:34

Hi,

I am trying to find out any information on a Herbert Lea born Circa 1863 in Derbyshire I think. He also had a son called Maurice Lea who died in the world war 1. I am ideally trying to find out who Herbert's parent were but struggling a little.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,
Tracy
:-D

safc

safc Report 22 Aug 2012 22:36

????

Name: Herbert Lea
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Apr 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Lea
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Lea
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04261-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1785836
Reference Number: it 6 p 58 no 461

safc

safc Report 22 Aug 2012 22:38

LEA, MAURICE BERTRAM

Rank:
Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:
18/08/1916
Age:
19
Regiment/Service:
Northamptonshire Regiment

7th Bn.
Panel Reference
Pier and Face 11 A and 11 D.
Memorial
THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Additional Information:

Son of Herbert and Laura Lea, of Sunnylands, Dallington, Northampton.
View certificate This is a PDF file and requires Adobe Reader to view.

safc

safc Report 22 Aug 2012 22:41

????

Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
Carter Phyllis Hardingstone 3b 47
Faulkner Herbert Ephraim Hardingstone 3b 47
FAULKNER Herbert Ephrain Hardingstone 3b 47
Lea Herbert Hardingstone 3b 47 xxxxxxx
Ratcliffe Laura Hardingstone 3b 47 xxxxxxx

Tracy

Tracy Report 22 Aug 2012 22:44

Super Thank you so much! From the death record above I think this may have been another child.

Being cheeky now! I don't suppose anyone can find the marriage of his mother and father or earlier censuses???

Thank you so much for all your help though!!

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 22:49

I looked at the original and for definite on the 1891 the son looks like Horace Edwin.

And never worry about being cheeky. Chances are by the time I've pressed send on this message, it will already have been found :-D

Tracy

Tracy Report 22 Aug 2012 22:53

Thank you!! :-)

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 22:59

This is the right family for 1851

1851 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name William Lea
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1818
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Collier
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Lea
Age 26
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Measham
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Thomas Lea
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Henry Lea
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1847
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Emma Lea
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Tracy

Tracy Report 22 Aug 2012 23:01

Just amazed at how quickly you have found all this information!!! Thank you!!!

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:08

Looking at the original for the 1851 there are no roads or streets mentioned but in the next but one entry is another Lea family

Posting for possible connection

1851 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name Susanah Lea
Age 64
Estimated Year of Birth 1787
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Snainton
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 2
Name Thomas Lea
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Collier
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Sarah Lea
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Francis Lea
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Hannah Lea
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:13


William Lea
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 25 Dec 1843 Church-?Gresley,? Derbyshire,? England
parents: John Lea
spouse: Mary Chamberlain
groom's name: William Lea
bride's name: Mary Chamberlain
marriage date: 25 Dec 1843
marriage place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
groom's father's name: John Lea
bride's father's name: Joseph Chamberlain
indexing project (batch) number: M02003-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1785836

Tracy

Tracy Report 22 Aug 2012 23:19

Absolutely amazing thank you so much for all your help!!!
:-D

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:21

From FreeBMD

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)

Chamberlain Mary Burton upon Trent 17 14
Lea William Burton upon Trent 17 14

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:33

Tracy I apologise. I've messed up and am going to go back over everything to do a double check for the correct family.

A very bad mistake but put it down to tired old eyes. Back in a few mins.J :-(

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:39

There are two families with very similar information. One from Derbyshire and the other from Northampton.

The Maurice Bertram Lea belongs to the Northampton family. They connect to the butcher occupation.

The Derbyshire family connect to the mines.

I managed to mix them up too and I think I know why.

Going to try to divide them up (painful)

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:44

Going to post again from scratch

Name: Herbert Lea
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Apr 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Lea
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Lea
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04261-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1785836
Reference Number: it 6 p 58 no 461

FreeBMD
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1863 (>99%)
LEA Herbert Burton 6b 316


JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:46

1871 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Leas Row
Parish Church Gresley
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name William Lea
Age 53
Estimated Year of Birth 1818
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Lea
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Leicestershire
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 3
Name William Lea
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name George Lea
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Joseph Lea
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 6
Name Herbert Lea
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 7
Name John Lea
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 8
Name Susan Lea
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:49

1881 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address 3, Old Freehold
Parish Church Gresley (Derby)
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name George Ordidge
Age 60
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Labourer In Pot Works
Birth Place Ch Gresley
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Ordidge
Age 55
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Moira
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 3
Name George H Ordidge
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Ch Gresley
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Herbert Lea
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Coal Miner
Birth Place Ch Gresley
Birth County Derbyshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 Aug 2012 23:54

Sorry Tracy. I've removed the confused contributions from me. Hopefully the rest will be correct as I add them. J

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 23 Aug 2012 00:09

The 1851,71 and 81 are correct I think.

Going to try and find in the 1861 :-S