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Maureen
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4 Aug 2012 13:36 |
Hi To anyone who can help please, I have my great grandfather on my Grandads marriage certificate but cannot find him anywhere, I would like to enter his profession (retired police inspector) to see if this helps with a census search but there is no facility for this that I can see he was alive in 1912 thats all I know I have tried census searches with father and son names but nothing seems to work, thanks
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patchem
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4 Aug 2012 13:44 |
Could you gives us some names to work with and we can try and help? Thanks
Added: He may not have described himself as a retired police inspector, but used a completely different job title.
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4 Aug 2012 13:54 |
You can search Find My Past by occupation in 1911, but you also have to include a first or surname. This also applies to most earlier censuses
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4 Aug 2012 13:56 |
Maybe Maureen just wants advice on procedure so she can search herself.
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Maureen
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4 Aug 2012 17:00 |
Hi Thanks for all the replies, Wedding of John George Wills and Ilma Kathleen Willie, his name as the grooms father is George Wills, under Rank or Profession is written Pensioned Police Inspector and the date of the wedding December 1912 is that enough info or do you need any more, thanks very much
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4 Aug 2012 17:17 |
Marriage Record Name John G Wills Year of Marriage 1912 Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District West Ham Registration County Essex Spouse's Surname Willie Volume Number 4A Volume Page 663 Spouse Match: John G WILLS married Ilma K WILLIE Name Ilma K Willie Year of Marriage 1912 Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District West Ham Registration County Essex Spouse's Surname Wills Volume Number 4A Volume Page 663
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patchem
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4 Aug 2012 17:24 |
Have you got ages and address at marriage, etc? Thanks
Added: For ref: Ilma K Wills Birth Date: abt 1887 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1954 Age at Death: 67 Registration district: Essex South Western Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5a Page: 230
Births Dec 1886 Willie Ilma Kathleen S Wantage 2c 292
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Astra
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4 Aug 2012 17:25 |
1891 census
WILLS, George Head Married M 56 1835 Retired Police Inspector Island of St Helena VIEW WILLS, Mary A Wife Married F 59 1832 Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire VIEW WILLS, John G Son Single M 16 1875 Railway Clerk Hanwell, Middlesex VIEW MURRAY, Norman M Boarder Single M 17 1874 Railway Clerk Peterborough, Northamptonshire VIEW CLARK, Mary Servant Single F 16 1875 General Servant ?, Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 1030 Folio: 139 Page: 38 Registration District: Brentford Civil Parish: Twyford Abbey Ealing Municipal Borough: Address: 6, Lothair Road, Twyford Abbey Ealing, Ealing County: Middlesex
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4 Aug 2012 17:29 |
1911 Census Household RecordHousehold information Address 39 Albany Road West Ealing W Parish Ealing Town West Ealing W Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 7 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN6878 RG78PN343A RD128 SD4 ED11 SN170 Administrative County Middlesex Registration District Brentford Registration Sub District Brentford Enumeration District 11
Householder 1 Name George Thomas Wills Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married Married / 15 Years Total Children Born Alive 2 Children Still Living 2 Gender M Age 40 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Occupation Police Constable Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Bucking Essex
Householder 2 Name Alice Maud Wills Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 15 Years Gender F Age 39 Estimated Year of Birth 1872 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Poplar
Householder 3 Name George Horeton Wills Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1897 Occupation Labourer Employed Y Working at Home Y Industry Electric Lighting Place of Birth Ealing Middlesex
Householder 4 Name Florence Maud Wills Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1899 Occupation At School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Ealing Middlesex
Householder 5 Name Charles P Tilly Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1857 Occupation Clerk Employed Y Working at Home N
Householder 6 Name Mary Ann Fuller Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition / Years Married Widow Gender F Age 92 Estimated Year of Birth 1819 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Dover
Householder 7 Name Eliza Taylor Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Condition / Years Married Widow Gender F Age 51 Estimated Year of Birth 1860 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Dover
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Astra
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4 Aug 2012 17:31 |
Here is Georges Baptism for you
parents: John Wills,? Catherine Wills name: George Wills gender: Male baptism/christening date: 26 Apr 1835 baptism/christening place: Saint Helena birth date: 28 Mar 1835 father's name: John Wills mother's name: Catherine Wills indexing project (batch) number: C01077-3 system origin: Saint Helena-EASy source film number: 498605
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Janice
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4 Aug 2012 17:39 |
1881
Name: George Wills Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Wills Gender: Male Where born: St Helena Civil parish: Ealing County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: High Street Police Station Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Inspector Of Police Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Brentford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1344 Folio: 81 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age George Wills 46 Mary Ann Wills 49 John George Wills 6 Albert Goodwin 24
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Janice
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4 Aug 2012 17:40 |
oops - beaten to it!
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Astra
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4 Aug 2012 17:48 |
Hi Maureen
Can you tall us what John George's occupation and his age was when he married please and his marital status.
Think we may have the wrong person here.
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Janice
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4 Aug 2012 17:50 |
Something isn't adding up here unless Ilma is wife number 2. However, I can't find a death for Beatrice.
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Astra
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4 Aug 2012 18:05 |
That's what made me ask because I think that this is Beatrice Annie's death
Deaths Jun 1928 (>99%) Wills Beatrice A 50 Lambeth 1d 221
Unless they separated after 1911 and his 2nd marriage was bigamous
What's interesting is that Ilma was a barmaid at the Railway Hotel in Croydon and the John George we have found worked for the railways.
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Mary
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4 Aug 2012 20:08 |
If you have the marriage cert for John george then maybe you can compere the signature to the 1911 census to see if they are the same guy.
Daisy Beatrice Mary Wills 1897 married 20/7/1918 naming dad as John George Wills a Clerk. Her address at the time was 18,Portsea Place.
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4 Aug 2012 20:22 |
This may be of interest in the future if it is the right family
John Wills - Spitalfields - (London - Middlesex) I am trying to trace the parents of John Wills born c1807-1810 he married Catherine Swain on St Helena in 1831 where they had at least two children before returning to London to have several more children. One of the children born in St Helena was George Wills c1835 who is listed on one of the census as a Police Inspector. Can anyone help me?
http://www.curiousfox.com/history/middlesex_77.html
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Janice
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4 Aug 2012 20:40 |
1861
1861 England Census about John Mills Name: John Mills [John Wills] Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Wills Gender: Male Where born: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: May Fair John Mills 54 bootmaker born Spitalfields Catherine Wills 48 born St Helena Henry Wills 23 Edward Wills 21 John J Wills 12 Catherine Wills 8 Albert Wills 2 John W Massey 16
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Astra
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4 Aug 2012 21:24 |
The Albert Wills who George left his money to in his will appears to be his brother. How very strange
WILLS, Albert Head Married M 52 1859 School Master St George Hanover Sq Mayfair London VIEW WILLS, Maud Mary Wife Married19 years F 46 1865 City of London VIEW WILLS, Violet E Daughter Single F 24 1887 School Mistress Fulham London VIEW WILLS, Ivy V M Daughter Single F 14 1897 Fulham London VIEW SEARLE, Elaine R Servant Single F 21 1890 Tilbury London VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 342 Reference: RG14PN342 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED5 SN254 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: South Fulham Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Fulham Address: 64 Oxberry Avenue Fulham County: London
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Janice
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4 Aug 2012 21:28 |
Maud is not his first wife. In the 1891 census, Albert is a widower and Violet is 4.
Name: Albert Wills Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: St Georges, London, England Civil parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St Dionis Backchurch County/Island: London Registration district: Fulham Sub-registration district: Fulham
Albert Wills 32 Violet E Wills 4 Harriet L Eastmond 32
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