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Not forgotten about help out there, will be looking through paperwork. Anyone found out anything more about George and family.
Has anyone got world wide membership and can search available records for the Payne family arriving in Australia e.g. homes, electoral roles (if records are available, B.M.D's etc
Thanks

thanks both of you. We will be going through our papers over the next few days and see what we come up with. Australia was new to us so we'll see if we get anything ang let you know. Sill can't find a name for infant or even if m / f. Thanks a lot for keeping going on this.
Be in touch.
Peter

I did have a look, just found this ??? arrive 1933

Mr G Payne retired 131, Chapple Street Tiverton Devon
Birth Date: abt 1867
Age: 66
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1933
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
Ship Name: Ormonde
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Shipping Line: Orient Line
Official Number: 141866

Arrival 1900
This George got on the ship at Cape Town so not yours.

Mr Geo Payne
Birth Date: abt 1871
Age: 29
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 25 Jun 1900
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne
[Adelaide]
[Natal]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Wilcannia
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Shipping Line: Blue Anchor Line
Official Number: 110154





Regards Vera

I think Ancestry may have incoming passenger lists which may show any arrivals FMP only have departures

We have that jan and we may also have a cat about. NEED to check. This for now - I agree that George & Annie married in 1901 which made it difficult as they married before they left on the ship. Also Thomas (Jabez) born Jabez Thomas Payne died in Tiverton in 1901. They would therefore have had to be back & forth across the big waters. I think care is needed in watching the families are right.We are going to check what we have in print and records here. Looks like different families with same names in parts.
MORE TO CHECK - Please keep going thanks as it is getting confusing.

1881 i see George was a farm servant

RG number: RG11
Piece: 2237
Folio: 32
Page: 8
Reg. District: Tiverton
Sub District: Washfield
Parish: Loxbear
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Sydborough Farm, Loxbear
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
AYRE, William G Head Single M 31 1850 Auctioneer & Farmer Of 140 Acres Employing 1 Lab & Boy
Loxbeare, Devon
KEMP, Ellen Servant Single F 24 1857 Housekeeper
Chawleigh, Devon
PAINE, George Servant Single M 13 1868 Farm Serv (Indoor)
Tiverton, Devon

That rules out Alice Payne born 1891 ... thanks Jan will delete.

It was the marriage that has confused me !!!!

Regards Vera

I wonder about occupations on census details and passenger list as the ones on there were farmers and i don't think there have been farmers on census details?

I had seen that one as well Vera but looking at 1891 census this looks like her with her parents

RG number: RG12
Piece: 1765
Folio: 15
Page: 23
Reg. District: Tiverton
Sub District: Tiverton
Parish: Tiverton
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St George
City/Municipal Borough: Tiverton
Address: New Inn Court, Fore Street, Tiverton
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PAYNE, Walter Head Married M 41 1850 Machine Hand At Lace Factory
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Theodosia Wife Married F 43 1848
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 22 1869
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, William S Son Single M 18 1873
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Sarah Ann Daughter F 13 1878
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Harriet Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Samuel R Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Walter H Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Jessie I Daughter F 2 1889
Tiverton, Devonshire
PAYNE, Alice M Daughter F 0 (UNDER2M) 1891
Tiverton, Devonshire
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I don't want to put the cat amongst the pidgeons...but just checking back on the thread,George and Annie were married in 1900 ???? The family I found was were on the ship in 1891 ???

Regards Vera

Vera,
Many thanks. Could be the infant. I'll keep looking and for sister 3. There were other sisters but older. I'll look later tonight.
Best wishes
Peter

Sorry Peter missed the name of the ship....


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Ship: SHANNON
Official Number:
Master's name: C.R. Edwards
Steamship Line:
Where bound: Sydney Australia
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 2050
Passengers on voyage: 69



Regards Vera

???? Could this be the infant???

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Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Payne Alice Maud Tiverton 5b 420


Regards Vera

Thanks everyone.
Just before I close the thread, does anyone have worldwide membership to check Australian records. I think I can possibly help with the names of the Payne's that went to Adelade, Australia on the ship that departed from the port of London on the 28th April 1891.
I may be able to help with the passengers names of the Paynes that were on the ship, but I don't know the ships name. I think they were
Father - Thomas (Jabez) Payne c1838 - Age 54 - Tiverton, Devon
Husband - George Slee Payne June 1/4 1867,Age 24 - Tiverton, Devon
Wife - Annie (maiden name - Pring) Payne Age 22, - Tiverton, Devon
Daughter 1 - Annie M Payne - Age 17- Tiverton, Devon
Daughter 2 - Elizabeth Jane Payne Age 15 - - Tiverton, Devon
Daughter 3 - Name unsure - Age 13 - probably Tiverton, Devon
Infant Name not known age 3 month - probably - Tiverton, Devon

I am fairly sure the Father Thomas Jabez Payne returned to Tiverton and died in 1901.

Anything that can be identified and passed on to me would be greatly appreciated. I will keep looking for the 3rd sister & infant names.

I also think Jabez Thomas Payne's wife Elizabeth (Slee) Payne died befor they left for Australia.

Hope more information can be found.

Thanks in advance
Peter

Thanks again to everyone
Before I close the thread does anyone have World Wide membership to try & get anything from Australia records. I can offer other names which I suspect are the family that went with George other than the infant.

Father - Thomas (Jabez) Payne born c1837
Husband - George Slee Payne born June 1/4 1867 - Age 24
Wife - Annie Pring c1868 - Age 22
Sister 1 - Ann, Anne or more likely to be Annie M Payne c1878
Sister 2 - Elizabeth Jane c1875
Sister 3 - ?
Infant - ?
Can't give any more info
Thanks

sorry Peter had to go off line but i see Vera has answered your question though that there were 2 males

Thanks Vera.
Peter

Mr G Payne is 24
wife and infant 24
3 sisters 17/15/13
father 54

Both men are farmers.

Unfortunately only initial is G

Regards Vera

Vera, could you please just confirm your post earlier today 19 July 2012 @ 13:00 about the passenger transcript you gave Mr G Payne - d.o.b. 1867 - Age 24
It would make perfect sense if Father was 24 as you originally said with wife at 22. Could you please confirm as unfortunately jansmith hasn't got back to me yet, and then I can close post. Many thanks. Peter
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jansmith
gave a later update which read as follows
no names on passenger list only ages
wife 22 child3/12
sisters 17,15,13 yrs
Father farmer 54 yrs
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I asked her above at 15:04
jansmith
To tie things in, is it possible that the Father could be 24 and not 54 due to transcript or how it is written?
54 doesn't seen to fit in with a 22 year old wife
Thanks

jansmith
To tie things in, is it possible that the Father could be 24 and not 54 due to transcript or how it is written?
54 doesn't seen to fit in with a 22 year old wife
Thanks