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Peter
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19 Jul 2012 12:32 |
Can anyone please help me with finding an illusive ancestor. Here is as much as I know. George Payne born in Tiverton in June 1/4 1867 to parents Father - Jabez Thomas Payne (aka Thomas Payne) born 1838 in Tiverton Mother - Elizabeth Slee, born in Uffculme, Devon 1835
Georges siblings were all born in Tiverton, Devon Samuel William Payne - c1860 Susan (Susannah) Payne - c1863 Thomas - c1863 Joseph - c1870 Harry - c1872 Elizabeth Jane - c1875 Ann Anne or Annie M - c1878
I am particularly looking for his date of marriage, Place and Spouses name If possible his year of death & place. I am getting a possibility of Australia but cannot check as I do not have Ancestry Worldwide membership.
I also got a possibility of marriage in March 1/4 1900 in Tiverton, with surnames of Tring or Davis.
I would be very grateful for any help. Many thanks
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MillymollyAmanda
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19 Jul 2012 12:57 |
There is this tree on Ancest*y showing spouse as Annie Pring ?
BIRTH: Apr 1867 - Devon, England MARRIAGE: Jan 1900 - Tiverton, Devon DEATH: 1953 - Australia PARENTS: Jabez Thomas Payne, Elizabeth Slee SPOUSE: Annie Pring
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Vera
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19 Jul 2012 13:00 |
Found this family no christian names...
passenger transcript details Name: Mr G PAYNE Date of departure: 28 April 1891 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Adelaide, Australia Passenger destination: Adelaide, Australia Date of Birth: 1867 (calculated from age) Age: 24 Marital status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Farmer Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Father PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript Infant PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript Sister PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript Sister PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript Sister PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript Wife PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript Regards Vera
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MillymollyAmanda
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19 Jul 2012 13:01 |
Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Payne George Tiverton 5b 593 Pring Annie Tiverton 5b 593
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AnnCardiff
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19 Jul 2012 13:20 |
Annie Payne England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1878 Tiverton,? Devonshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England name: Annie Payne event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Female age: 23 relationship to head of household: Daughter birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Tiverton sub-district: Tiverton ecclesiastical parish: Tiverton St George civil parish: Tiverton county: Devonshire
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AnnCardiff
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19 Jul 2012 13:20 |
Joseph Payne England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1871 Tiverton,? Devonshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England name: Joseph Payne event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 30 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Tiverton sub-district: Tiverton ecclesiastical parish: Tiverton St Peter civil parish: Tiverton county: Devonshire
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19 Jul 2012 13:21 |
Samuel W Payne England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1861 Tiverton,? Devon,? England census: 1881 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England name: Samuel W Payne age: 20 gender: Male birth year: 1861 birthplace: Tiverton, Devon, England relationship to head of household: Patient marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Postman address: (Tiverton Infirmary) Bampton Street census place: Tiverton, Devonshire, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341538 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2235 / 44 page number: 15
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19 Jul 2012 13:22 |
Harry Payne England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1873 Tiverton,? Devonshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Spittlegate Within,? Lincolnshire,? England name: Harry Payne event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 28 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Grantham sub-district: Grantham North ecclesiastical parish: Grantham St John The Evangelist Spitlegate civil parish: Spittlegate Within county: Lincolnshire
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AnnCardiff
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19 Jul 2012 13:23 |
Elizabeth Payne England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1876 Tiverton,? Devonshire census: 31 Mar 1901 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England name: Elizabeth Payne event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Female age: 25 relationship to head of household: Daughter birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Tiverton sub-district: Tiverton ecclesiastical parish: Tiverton St Peter civil parish: Tiverton county: Devonshire
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AnnCardiff
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19 Jul 2012 13:29 |
Jabez T Payne England and Wales Census, 1891 birth: Tiverton,? Devonshire census: 1891 England name: Jabez T Payne event: Census event date: 1891 gender: Male age: 52 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Tiverton sub-district: Tiverton ecclesiastical parish: St Peters civil parish: Tiverton county: Devonshire Jabez Thos Payne England and Wales Census, 1851 birth: Tiverton,? Devonshire census: 1851 England name: Jabez Thos Payne age: 12 gender: M birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire relationship to head of household: Son record type: Household
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AnnCardiff
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19 Jul 2012 13:30 |
Elizabeth Slee England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 03 Sep 1835 christening: 20 Sep 1835 CROSS LANDS OR COLD HARBOUR MEETING-?INDEPENDENT,?UFFCULME,?DEVON,?ENGLAND parents: Samuel Slee,? Elizabeth
name: Elizabeth Slee gender: Female baptism/christening date: 20 Sep 1835 baptism/christening place: CROSS LANDS OR COLD HARBOUR MEETING-INDEPENDENT,UFFCULME,DEVON,ENGLAND birth date: 03 Sep 1835 father's name: Samuel Slee mother's name: Elizabeth indexing project (batch) number: C06407-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 590697
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AnnCardiff
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19 Jul 2012 13:32 |
Name: Elizabeth Slee Event: Census Event Date: 1841 Gender: Female Age: 5 Birthplace: Devon Record Type: Household Registration District: Tiverton & Dulverton Sub-district: Uffculm Civil Parish: Uffculme County: Devonshire
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Astra
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19 Jul 2012 13:34 |
Father noted as Thomas??
PAYNE, Thomas Head Married M 43 1838 General Lab In Lace Factory Tiverton, Devon VIEW PAYNE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1836 Finisher In Lace Factory Uffculme, Devon VIEW PAYNE, Susannah Daughter Single F 18 1863 At Home Tiverton, Devon VIEW PAYNE, Joseph Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Tiverton, Devon VIEW PAYNE, Harry Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Tiverton, Devon VIEW PAYNE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Tiverton, Devon VIEW PAYNE, Annie M Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar Tiverton, Devon VIEW
Piece: 2235 Folio: 82 Page: 22 Registration District: Tiverton Civil Parish: Tiverton Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Street, Tiverton County: Devonshire
and 1871 showing George
PAYNE, Thomas Head M 32 1839 Devon VIEW PAYNE, Elizabeth Wife F 35 1836 Devon VIEW PAYNE, Samuel Son M 10 1861 Devon VIEW PAYNE, Susan Daughter F 8 1863 Devon VIEW PAYNE, Tom Son M 7 1864 Devon VIEW PAYNE, George Son M 3 1868 Devon VIEW PAYNE, Joseph Son M 0 1871 Devon VIEW
Piece: 2170 Folio: 77 Page: 17 Registration District: Tiverton Civil Parish: Tiverton Municipal Borough: Tiverton Address: Chapel Street, Tiverton County: Devonshire
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Peter
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19 Jul 2012 13:45 |
That is some great info. Many thanks for that to all of you. I have to admit I am a bit confused with the dates so could you please help out. MillyMollyMandy, how do I access the tree on Ancestry that you mentioned showing the spouse as Annie Pring etc. Vera, you said that at his departure on 28 April 1891 he was married & the transcription showing a wife, 1 infant & 3 sisters. Could you please tell me the sisters names and also the infants name and ages. Also if he was married at that time I am confused as his marriage shows as March 1900. Help please? Thanks
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jansmith
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19 Jul 2012 14:27 |
no names on passenger list only ages wife 22 child3/12 sisters 17,15,13 yrs Father farmer 54 yrs
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Peter
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19 Jul 2012 15:04 |
jansmith To tie things in, is it possible that the Father could be 24 and not 54 due to transcript or how it is written? 54 doesn't seen to fit in with a 22 year old wife Thanks
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Peter
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19 Jul 2012 16:30 |
Vera, could you please just confirm your post earlier today 19 July 2012 @ 13:00 about the passenger transcript you gave Mr G Payne - d.o.b. 1867 - Age 24 It would make perfect sense if Father was 24 as you originally said with wife at 22. Could you please confirm as unfortunately jansmith hasn't got back to me yet, and then I can close post. Many thanks. Peter ================================================== jansmith gave a later update which read as follows no names on passenger list only ages wife 22 child3/12 sisters 17,15,13 yrs Father farmer 54 yrs ==================================================== I asked her above at 15:04 jansmith To tie things in, is it possible that the Father could be 24 and not 54 due to transcript or how it is written? 54 doesn't seen to fit in with a 22 year old wife Thanks
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Vera
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19 Jul 2012 16:35 |
Mr G Payne is 24 wife and infant 24 3 sisters 17/15/13 father 54
Both men are farmers.
Unfortunately only initial is G
Regards Vera
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Peter
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19 Jul 2012 18:05 |
Thanks Vera. Peter
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jansmith
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19 Jul 2012 22:03 |
sorry Peter had to go off line but i see Vera has answered your question though that there were 2 males
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