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George Payne (c1867) Tiverton, Devon, England

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Peter

Peter Report 19 Jul 2012 12:32

Can anyone please help me with finding an illusive ancestor. Here is as much as I know.
George Payne born in Tiverton in June 1/4 1867 to parents
Father - Jabez Thomas Payne (aka Thomas Payne) born 1838 in Tiverton
Mother - Elizabeth Slee, born in Uffculme, Devon 1835

Georges siblings were all born in Tiverton, Devon
Samuel William Payne - c1860
Susan (Susannah) Payne - c1863
Thomas - c1863
Joseph - c1870
Harry - c1872
Elizabeth Jane - c1875
Ann Anne or Annie M - c1878

I am particularly looking for his date of marriage, Place and Spouses name
If possible his year of death & place. I am getting a possibility of Australia but cannot check as I do not have Ancestry Worldwide membership.

I also got a possibility of marriage in March 1/4 1900 in Tiverton, with surnames of Tring or Davis.

I would be very grateful for any help.
Many thanks

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 19 Jul 2012 12:57

There is this tree on Ancest*y showing spouse as Annie Pring ?

BIRTH: Apr 1867 - Devon, England
MARRIAGE: Jan 1900 - Tiverton, Devon
DEATH: 1953 - Australia
PARENTS: Jabez Thomas Payne, Elizabeth Slee
SPOUSE: Annie Pring

Vera

Vera Report 19 Jul 2012 13:00

Found this family no christian names...

passenger transcript details
Name: Mr G PAYNE
Date of departure: 28 April 1891
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Adelaide, Australia
Passenger destination: Adelaide, Australia

Date of Birth: 1867 (calculated from age)
Age: 24
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 2





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Father PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Infant PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Sister PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Sister PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Sister PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Wife PAYNE Page 1 of 2 View transcript


Regards Vera

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 19 Jul 2012 13:01

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)

Payne George Tiverton 5b 593
Pring Annie Tiverton 5b 593

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:20

Annie Payne
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1878 Tiverton,? Devonshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England


name: Annie Payne
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 23
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Tiverton
sub-district: Tiverton
ecclesiastical parish: Tiverton St George
civil parish: Tiverton
county: Devonshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:20

Joseph Payne
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1871 Tiverton,? Devonshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England


name: Joseph Payne
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 30
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Tiverton
sub-district: Tiverton
ecclesiastical parish: Tiverton St Peter
civil parish: Tiverton
county: Devonshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:21


Samuel W Payne
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1861 Tiverton,? Devon,? England
census: 1881 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England


name: Samuel W Payne
age: 20
gender: Male
birth year: 1861
birthplace: Tiverton, Devon, England
relationship to head of household: Patient
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Postman
address: (Tiverton Infirmary) Bampton Street
census place: Tiverton, Devonshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341538
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2235 / 44
page number: 15

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:22

Harry Payne
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1873 Tiverton,? Devonshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Spittlegate Within,? Lincolnshire,? England


name: Harry Payne
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 28
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Grantham
sub-district: Grantham North
ecclesiastical parish: Grantham St John The Evangelist Spitlegate
civil parish: Spittlegate Within
county: Lincolnshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:23

Elizabeth Payne
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1876 Tiverton,? Devonshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Tiverton,? Devonshire,? England


name: Elizabeth Payne
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 25
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Tiverton
sub-district: Tiverton
ecclesiastical parish: Tiverton St Peter
civil parish: Tiverton
county: Devonshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:29

Jabez T Payne
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Tiverton,? Devonshire
census: 1891 England


name: Jabez T Payne
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 52
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Tiverton
sub-district: Tiverton
ecclesiastical parish: St Peters
civil parish: Tiverton
county: Devonshire

Jabez Thos Payne
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Tiverton,? Devonshire
census: 1851 England


name: Jabez Thos Payne
age: 12
gender: M
birthplace: Tiverton, Devonshire
relationship to head of household: Son
record type: Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:30

Elizabeth Slee
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 03 Sep 1835
christening: 20 Sep 1835 CROSS LANDS OR COLD HARBOUR MEETING-?INDEPENDENT,?UFFCULME,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: Samuel Slee,? Elizabeth


name: Elizabeth Slee
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Sep 1835
baptism/christening place: CROSS LANDS OR COLD HARBOUR MEETING-INDEPENDENT,UFFCULME,DEVON,ENGLAND
birth date: 03 Sep 1835
father's name: Samuel Slee
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C06407-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 590697

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jul 2012 13:32

Name: Elizabeth Slee
Event: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Female
Age: 5
Birthplace: Devon
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Tiverton & Dulverton
Sub-district: Uffculm
Civil Parish: Uffculme
County: Devonshire

Astra

Astra Report 19 Jul 2012 13:34

Father noted as Thomas??

PAYNE, Thomas Head Married M 43 1838 General Lab In Lace Factory
Tiverton, Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1836 Finisher In Lace Factory
Uffculme, Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Susannah Daughter Single F 18 1863 At Home
Tiverton, Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Joseph Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Tiverton, Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Harry Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Tiverton, Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Tiverton, Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Annie M Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
Tiverton, Devon VIEW

Piece: 2235 Folio: 82 Page: 22 Registration District: Tiverton Civil Parish: Tiverton Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Street, Tiverton County: Devonshire

and 1871 showing George

PAYNE, Thomas Head M 32 1839 Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Elizabeth Wife F 35 1836 Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Samuel Son M 10 1861 Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Susan Daughter F 8 1863 Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Tom Son M 7 1864 Devon VIEW
PAYNE, George Son M 3 1868 Devon VIEW
PAYNE, Joseph Son M 0 1871 Devon VIEW


Piece: 2170 Folio: 77 Page: 17 Registration District: Tiverton Civil Parish: Tiverton Municipal Borough: Tiverton Address: Chapel Street, Tiverton County: Devonshire

Peter

Peter Report 19 Jul 2012 13:45

That is some great info. Many thanks for that to all of you. I have to admit I am a bit confused with the dates so could you please help out.
MillyMollyMandy, how do I access the tree on Ancestry that you mentioned showing the spouse as Annie Pring etc.
Vera, you said that at his departure on 28 April 1891 he was married & the transcription showing a wife, 1 infant & 3 sisters. Could you please tell me the sisters names and also the infants name and ages. Also if he was married at that time I am confused as his marriage shows as March 1900.
Help please?
Thanks

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Jul 2012 14:27

no names on passenger list only ages
wife 22 child3/12
sisters 17,15,13 yrs
Father farmer 54 yrs

Peter

Peter Report 19 Jul 2012 15:04

jansmith
To tie things in, is it possible that the Father could be 24 and not 54 due to transcript or how it is written?
54 doesn't seen to fit in with a 22 year old wife
Thanks

Peter

Peter Report 19 Jul 2012 16:30

Vera, could you please just confirm your post earlier today 19 July 2012 @ 13:00 about the passenger transcript you gave Mr G Payne - d.o.b. 1867 - Age 24
It would make perfect sense if Father was 24 as you originally said with wife at 22. Could you please confirm as unfortunately jansmith hasn't got back to me yet, and then I can close post. Many thanks. Peter
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jansmith
gave a later update which read as follows
no names on passenger list only ages
wife 22 child3/12
sisters 17,15,13 yrs
Father farmer 54 yrs
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I asked her above at 15:04
jansmith
To tie things in, is it possible that the Father could be 24 and not 54 due to transcript or how it is written?
54 doesn't seen to fit in with a 22 year old wife
Thanks

Vera

Vera Report 19 Jul 2012 16:35

Mr G Payne is 24
wife and infant 24
3 sisters 17/15/13
father 54

Both men are farmers.

Unfortunately only initial is G

Regards Vera

Peter

Peter Report 19 Jul 2012 18:05

Thanks Vera.
Peter

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Jul 2012 22:03

sorry Peter had to go off line but i see Vera has answered your question though that there were 2 males