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19 Mar 2014 16:39 |
Hi Folks
I have been trying to find the marriage of the George and his wife Jane Grant over a long time now and have come to the conclusion that the couple did not marry.
I now have the Birth Cert for Agnes H Grant giving me her mothers name as Jane Grant formerly Panell.
I have searched for her birth and marriage to no avail, but, found this on the 1881 census
Name: Jane P. Grant Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: George Grant Gender: Female Where born: St Georges In Earl, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 29 Tobin St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Laundress Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 32a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 33 Folio: 54 Page Number: 63 Household Members: Name Age George Grant 58 Jane P. Grant 58 Arthur Prenell 26
I have looked for Arthur Prenell he is listed as a Nephew and can't find him either
Could I have your views on the above please......
Regards
Tom
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 16:44 |
So the 'P' in Jane's name is possibly her maiden name.....................
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 16:46 |
I see that you followed my advice about how to delete.........and have now deleted the other thread about his topic.
No doubt a lot of the work done has been duplicated...................
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 16:53 |
1851 census
Person: GRANT, Andrew Address: Little Mall, Kensington
GRANT, George Head Married M 34 1817 General Dealer Kensington, Middlesex VIEW GRANT, Jane Wife Married F 31 1820 St Anne Soho, Middlesex VIEW GRANT, George Son M 11 1840 Scholar Kensington, Middlesex VIEW GRANT, Andrew Son M 9 1842 Scholar Kensington, Middlesex VIEW GRANT, Virginia Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar Kensington, Middlesex
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Tom
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19 Mar 2014 16:53 |
Hi Folks
I have now received the Birth Cert of Agnes Hannah Grant. I now have the mothers name Jane Grant formerly Pannel I have searched for her and I have been unable find her birth or marriage. I have come to the conclusion that Jane and George never married, but on searching I came across this on the 1881 census
Jane P. Grant Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: George Grant Gender: Female Where born: St Georges In Earl, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 29 Tobin St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Laundress Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 32a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 33 Folio: 54 Page Number: 63 Household Members: Name Age George Grant 58 Jane P. Grant 58 Arthur Prenell 26
I have looked for this man and can't find him either, is this just a coincidence or what......................
Can I have your thoughts on this please
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Kucinta
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19 Mar 2014 16:54 |
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Not sure because of the variation in surname spelling.
Born 10th march 1857. Father a general dealer:
Name: Arthur Purnell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 31 May 1857 Father's Name: Andrew Purnell Mother's name: Eliza Purnell Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
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Name: Jane Purnell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1822 Father's Name: John Purnell Mother's name: Ann Purnell Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 16:55 |
Name: George Charles Grant Gender: Male Christening Date: 14 Nov 1847 Christening Place: Notting Hill, Middlesex, England Birth Date: 05 Nov 1840
Father's Name: George Grant
Mother's Name: Jane Grant
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00915-1 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 597797 Reference ID: v P84 p 37
Births Dec 1840 (>99%) GRANT George Charles Kensington 3 247
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 16:56 |
Name: Virginia Ann Grant Gender: Male Christening Date: 14 Nov 1847 Christening Place: Notting Hill, Middlesex, England
Father's Name: George Grant
Mother's Name: Jane Grant
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00915-1 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 597797 Reference ID: v P84 p 37
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Kucinta
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19 Mar 2014 17:08 |
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Jane Purnell married James Pannell. I originally posted Jane Purnell's baptism as I thought it might have been a variant spelling of Panell, but maybe it wasn't after all, and Pannell was her married name.
Name: James Pannell baker<<<<<<< Spouse Name: Jane Purnell<<<<<<<<<< Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 30 Aug 1844 Parish: St Pancras Parish Chapel Borough: Camden Father Name: Thomas Pannell carpenter Spouse Father: John Purnell-dead<<<<<<<<<<<< Register Type: Parish Register
Maybe she wasn't free to marry George?
EDIT - Sorry, a complete red herring, as the above couple are still together in 1861:
Address: 13, Little Camden Street, Pancras County: London
PANNELL, James Head Married M 42 1819 Baker Jour Bognor, Sussex PANNELL, Jane Wife Married F 39 1822 Stepney, Sussex PANNELL, James Son M 14 1847 Errand Boy Camden Town, Middlesex PANNELL, Jane Daughter F 16 1845 Camden Town, Middlesex PANNELL, Mary Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Camden Town, Middlesex PANNELL, Thomas Son M 7 1854 Scholar Camden Town, Middlesex PANNELL, Emily Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Camden Town, Middlesex PANNELL, Fanny Daughter F 2 1859 Camden Town, Middlesex PARVIS, Eliza Unmarried F 19 1842 Serv Camden Town, Middlesex ISGROVE, Mary Unmarried F 21 1840 Serv Somersetshire
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Tom
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19 Mar 2014 17:09 |
Reggie
Thank you for your help and advice, the information gathered has not been discarded it's all on file now and I can peruse it at leisure.
Kucinta Thank you for your help on this subject also
Kind regards
Tom
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 17:17 |
Can't see them in 1841.......................and George jnr should definitely be there, having been born in 1840.
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 17:20 |
1861 census
Person: PURNELL, Arthur Address: 9, Mansfield Place Upper, St Pancras
PURNELL, Andrew Head Married M 39 1822 Publican St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW PURNELL, Eliza Wife Married F 33 1828 St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW PURNELL, Andrew G Son M 11 1850 St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW PURNELL, John Wm Son M 9 1852 St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW PURNELL, Albert Son M 5 1856 St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW PURNELL, Arthur Son M 3 1858 St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW PURNELL, Fredk E Son M 2 1859 St Pancras, Middlesex VIEW LOCKYER, Emma Servant Unmarried F 17 1844 St Pancras, Middlesex
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 17:22 |
1851 census
Person: PURNELL, Andrew Address: 2, Mansfield Place, Saint Pancras
PURNELL, Andrew Head Married M 27 1824 General Dealer St Pancras VIEW PURNELL, Eliza Wife Married F 23 1828 St Pancras VIEW PURNELL, Andrew Son M 1 1850 St Pancras VIEW WALTERS, Sarah Sister In Law F 10 1841 St Pancras
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2014 17:24 |
Name: Andrew Purnell
Spouse's Name: Eliza Waters
Event Date: 28 May 1849 Event Place: Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster,London,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00145-5 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 561169, 561170, 561171, 561172, 561173, 561174, 561175
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Tom
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19 Mar 2014 19:21 |
Reggie
Once again thank you very much for taking the time to search for this couple.
It really is a puzzle trying to find the family throughout the census I have retained all the information given to be able go through it slowly
Kind regards
Tom
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