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Thank you so much for that, rootgatherer, I'll look into that after next week, will be a bit busy before then I'm very grateful for your help.

Remember that at that time many people were unable to read or write so the spelling of surnames was really down to the choice of the registrar. A lot depended upon the accent of the person giving the information and whether the registrar was used to the local accent. For what it's worth, I think that Barthorpe and Bartrop could reasonably refer to the same surname.


Have a look here

http://www.houseofnames.com/balthrop-family-crest

http://www.houseofnames.com/bartrop-family-crest

nudge again

One more nudge
:-)

Does anyone else have any thoughts about Mary Ann Barthorpe and Mary Bartrop being the same? :-)

nudge

I was hoping some of the people who helped me before would see my update and know how much I appreciated their help. :-D

safc. you're a Star. Thank you so much. :-D

hi
could be the same depending on nottingham accent?

Thank you. you didn't say if you thought it was the same. I wonder at the change of name. :-D

Curiosity

found here
http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Safc, Wow! so much info. Do you think this person is the same as Mary Barthorpe?
Where can I see this? And thank you so much. :-D

County Nottinghamshire
Place Ordsall
Church All Hallows
RegisterNumber 48
MarriageDate 14 Dec 1841
GroomForename Thomas
GroomSurname WATSON
GroomAge 21
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Bricklayer
GroomAbode South Retford
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname BARTROP
BrideAge 22
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation Servant
BrideAbode South Retford
GroomFatherForename George
GroomFatherSurname WATSON
GroomFatherOccupation Flax Dresser
BrideFatherForename George
BrideFatherSurname BARTROP
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Henry
WitnessOneSurname DENMAN
WitnessTwoForename Step
WitnessTwoSurname HEMSWORTH
Notes
FileNumber 30422

it must be very rewarding for you lovely people who give advice on here and get results. I'm so happy to give feedback on what I've discovered, and say a massive Thank You. :-D

nudge

It's been a while but I thought I'd let you good people know my findings. Vera, your wild suggestion was a winner, I found Mary Ann Godfrey's burial in 1888. She was buried along with children named Andrews, in a grave owned by an Andrews ( my Sarah married an Andrews ) The death cert named her son George Watson. I found a marriage for him to a Martha Hewitt (witnesses at Sarahs wedding ) Sarah was a witness at theirs. I also have the marriage of Mary a Watson and Bentley Godfrey. Mary's father was George Barthorpe. I then got a look at Harriet's birth ( Sarah's sister) That upset things because mothers maiden name on this was Nicholson. I looked at births again and found another Harriet, b. Mar 1842. Bingo! same details as Sarah. I just need to find marriage and possibly death fot Thomas, Could it possibly be Mary Bartrop and Thomas Watson Q4 1841 East Retford, Nottinghamshire?

Thank you Vera

Perhaps not at present but later maybe something will just help to make a link with the Benjamin Watson on Sarah Ann's marriage cert.

Vera

Vera, thank you for trying, I may never get any concrete proof.

Hello

I checked out that 1911 where your grandfather had previously lived. The only connection I could find was that William Byron who started off as a Cattle Drover and later became a Butcher had the same occupation as George of the Thomas and Mary family who worked as a Butcher too but just to confuse things also did a stint on one census as an Engineer.

Vera