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Hi
Can someone please take a look on the 1851 & 1871 census. probably in Dymock.
I am looking to find Hannah Kirby and any siblings/family.
The street address would be very helpful as would occupations please.


This is them on 1891 census.
42 Ann Street, Cilfynydd
Ellen Nash widow Dymock
Hannah Meyrick widow lodger 43 yrs dressmaker Dymock

On the 1861 census
Hannah Kirby 17 yrs dressmaker
Ellen Kirby 7 yrs
parents David/Ann Kirby
Slight difference in age for Hannah on census but that is not unusual as the ennumerators used to go round with a notebook and fill in the census forms later.

Many thanks

Her birthplace would be useful

Also - when did she marry?

1851

Name: Ann Cirby
[Ann Kirby]
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: W;D
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:


Registration district: Newent
Sub-registration district: Newent
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Piece: 1960
Folio: 299
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
William Trehern 29
David Cirby 30
Ann Cirby 41
Emma Cirby 10
Ann Cirby 7
Harriett Cirby 5
Edwin Cirby 3

No street address

They were in the Hamlet of Bromesberrow East

Both parents were Ag Labs

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1871 England Censusabout Ann Merrick
Name: Ann Merrick
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Merrick
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Redmarley
Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Newent
Sub-registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 2608
Folio: 34
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
James Merrick 23
Ann Merrick 25 - (looks like) Glovcufs but difficult to read.

Address: Hillfield Cottage

HI Reggie

I believe that Hannah was born in Dymock. Her sister Ellen born c1854. It is Ellen that I believe married into the Nash family ( that I am researching)...
I know little about her and nothing about her family - hence tha earlier & later census requirements. ( to confirm or filter out info).

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1871 England Census
about Hannah Kirby
Name: Hannah Kirby
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Horsley
Town: Walkley
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Horsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 2640
Folio: 66
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John Sawyer 22
Mary Sawyer 23
Hannah Kirby 25 Housekeeper unemployed and a visitor

Have you found the marriage for Ellen to Nash?

I am not sure when Hannah or Ellen married this is Ellen in 1881

1881 Wales Census about Ellen Nash
Name: Ellen Nash Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Brimsgreen, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street address: 21 Caroline St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Adams 26
Annie Nash 7
Charles Nash 32 born: Brimsgreen, Gloucestershire . Coal miner
Charles Nash 4
>Ellen Nash 27 born: Brimsgreen, Gloucestershire
James Nash 6
William Nash 2



and 1891
1891 Wales Census
about Ellen Nash
Name: Ellen Nash
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dynoch, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Eglwysilan
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Cilfynydd
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street Address: 42 Anne Street
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household Members: Name Age
>Ellen Nash 36
James Nash 17
Charles Nash 15
William Nash 12
>Hannah Meyrick 43
Harry Meyrick 12

Posting 1891 in full for INFO only

Name: Hannah Meyrick
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Eglwysilan
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Cilfynydd
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
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Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4411
Folio: 38
Page Number: 80
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Nash 36
James Nash 17
Charles Nash 15
William Nash 12
Hannah Meyrick 43
Harry Meyrick 12
George Rees 50

Ditto 1861


Name: Ellen Kirby
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David Kirby
Mother's name: Ann Kirby
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Dymock Ryland
Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Newent
Sub-registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Piece: 1761
Folio: 47
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
David Kirby 40
Ann Kirby 49
Hannah Kirby 17
Harriett Kirby 15
Edwin Kirby 13
Charles Davis 4
Ellen Kirby 7

From GlosBMD - confirming MMN


NASH Ann NASH NASH KIRBY 1873 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 29 395
NASH Charles Edward NASH NASH KIRBY 1876 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 34 58
NASH James NASH NASH KIRBY 1874 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 31 83
NASH William John NASH NASH KIRBY 1879 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 37 40


However, I can't see marriages for either Ellen or Hannah

Hi Reggie

Is that ANN Kirby marrying Charles Nash ? It should be Ellen that we are looking for??

sorry Reggie - I have just re-read your message above and note
Charles Nash - Kirby marriage Colesford 1876
Thanks - Gill

ps - On 1871 census
Charles Nash 23
Ellen Nash 20 Wife

perhaps the Coleford marriage is a 'red-herring'?

I wonder if this could be Hannah???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Hannah Kirby
Name: Hannah Kirby
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1864
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 414

Hannah Kirby Apr-May-Jun 1864 Gloucester Gloucestershire

William Poole Apr-May-Jun 1864 Gloucester Gloucestershire

THEN

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about James Merrick
Name: James Merrick
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1869
Registration district: Newent
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 491

James Merrick Oct-Nov-Dec 1869 Newent Gloucestershire

Hannah Poole Oct-Nov-Dec 1869 Newent Gloucestershire

thats interesting....

So, Hannah Kirby becomes Hannah Poole then Hanna Merryck...

I wonder if Ellen has a similar story. Perhaps Charles Nash was Ellens 2nd marriage?

There is only 5 years between these marriages but if William died then she could have married James. There dos'nt seem to be any children born to the first marriage. ?????????

The only true way to find out is to buy the marriage certs.

1881 England Censusabout Hannah Merrick
Name: Hannah Merrick
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Merrick
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Hartpury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Upper Buttersend
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:
View image


Registration district: Newent
Sub-registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page

Piece: 2528
Folio: 130
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
James Merrick 31
Hannah Merrick 37
H.James Merrick 1

As Hannah and son Harry are in Wales in 1891 I was wondering if this was hubby in 1891:-

1891 Wales Censusabout James Merrick
Name: James Merrick
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Roath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Germans
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address:
Condition as to marriage: (however he is noted as Single)
Occupation: ?cavater

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page

Piece: 4389
Folio: 23
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Jones 40
William Jones 19
George Smith 20
xxxx James Merrick 41 xxxx
Benjamin Brown 38
Richard Webb 37

parents: William Poole, Hannah

name: William Walter Poole
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 18 Aug 1864
baptism/christening place: DYMOCK,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: William Poole
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: D19740-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: unknown

1891 James merrick - is there a street address please? and do we know who the other residents were...ie relationship to head and there occupations?

Second marriage is reg.dist. Newent and age would be about right so this could be a possible death for first husband William:-

Deaths Sep 1867 (>99%)
Poole William 25 Newent 6a 136

(dob 1842)

He is a Peat Exuvater