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25 Jun 2012 23:36 |
Well done Christina it has really been bugging me that I could not find Albert Howell Maitland anywhere else. So.....was he already married when he married Louisa Kemp in 1860?
Wendy
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MarieCeleste
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25 Jun 2012 23:47 |
Here's the charming Catherine with her family in 1851, gives a better idea of her real age:
HOLYOAKE, John Head Married M 51 1800 Traveller In Needles & Hooks Redditch, Worcestershire HOLYOAKE, Charlotte Wife Married F 50 1801 Redditch, Worcestershire WARD, Catherine Daughter Married F 30 1821 Redditch, Worcestershire HOLYOAKE, John Son Married M 29 1822 Needle Maker Redditch, Worcestershire HOLYOAKE, Mary A Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Redditch, Worcestershire HOLYOAKE, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Redditch, Worcestershire PLAYDON, Mary Servant Unmarried F 21 1830 General Serv Pershore, Worcestershire
Piece: 2049 Folio: 206 Page: 39 Registration District: Kings Norton Civil Parish: Edgbaston
Address: Lee Bank Road, Edgbaston County: Worcestershire
(Had been hoping that Howell/Maitland was with her)
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25 Jun 2012 23:54 |
Isn't this odd, was she trying to repent her sins?
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Catherine Julia Ward Holyoake gender: Female baptism/christening date: 17 Jun 1852 baptism/christening place: St. Andrews, Bordesley, Warwick, England birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: John James Holyoake father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Charlotte Holyoake mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: I02373-6 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1545603 reference number: 63
Source Citation "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NF62-1N5 : accessed 25 June 2012), Catherine Julia Ward Holyoake, 1852. _______________________________________________________
She'd already been baptised once:
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Catherine Holyoake gender: Female baptism/christening date: 05 Aug 1820 baptism/christening place: Stafford, England birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: John Holyoake father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Charlotte Holyoake mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: I03887-0 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 350476
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25 Jun 2012 23:57 |
When she 'married' Major Robert Westmacott she gave her fathers name as Chas Maitland which it obviously wasn't.
Name: Julia Holyoake Maitland Spouse Name: Robert Westmacott Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 19 Sep 1855 Parish: Greenwich St Alphege Borough: Greenwich Spouse Father Name: Richard Westmacott Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses:- Eliza Blanch Bowden and James Bowden going by the above census Julia would have been 34.
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jun 2012 00:02 |
Not sure about her dad on that 1855 marriage, I do think it says John. However, she's elevated his status to "gentleman".
I don't think Alfred Howell (Maitland) did die, I think he's lurking somewhere.
Must off to bed now!
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26 Jun 2012 00:40 |
All about Captain Robert Marsh Westmacott
http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/rmw1.html
There is also some of his work if you Google his name and click on Images
I looked again at the 1855 marriage and think that you could be right and it says John Maitland for her father.
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26 Jun 2012 11:29 |
Robert Hopke Reed's first marriage
parents: Thomas Reed spouse: Anne Louisa Bandeira groom's name: Robert Hopk'E Reed bride's name: Anne Louisa Bandeira marriage date: 20 Feb 1856 marriage place: Saint James,Westminster,London,England groom's father's name: Thomas Reed bride's father's name: Joacquim Bandeira
I think this was her death as they were living in Penge which comes under Croydon Deaths Mar 1870 (>99%) Reed Annie Louisa 37 Croydon 2a 154
Marriage in 1871 to Louisa Kemp/Maitland Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%) Bruen Adriana McWhorter Kensington 1a 19 Cockran Sutton Fraser Kensington 1a 19 >>Maitland Louise Adelaide H Kensington 1a 19 >>Reed Robert Hopke Kensington 1a 19
By 1881 he was a widower again Name: Arabella D. Reed Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Hopke Reed Gender: Female Where born: Penge, Surrey, England Civil parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 46 Colby Rd Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Norwood ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 630 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hopke Reed 51 Arabella D. Reed 20 Mary Reed 8 Reginald Reed 9 Ann Branderia 76 Minnie Cresa 18
Possible death of Louisa Adelaide Deaths Sep 1873 (>99%) Reed Louisa 35 Lambeth 1d 331 They were living in Lambeth in 1881 and the age fits.
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jun 2012 13:39 |
Just a quickie while I'm on my lunchbreak (this case has really got to me!!).
I've found a newspaper article (too long to type out in full) from 1878 where a Mr Alfred Howell, wholesale Sheffield and Birmingham warehouseman, who conducted business in London was bankrupt. He had petioned for liquidation in 1877.
The case was primarily about how aspects of the case had been handled, no personal stuff.
Now, wasn't Catherine/Kate/Julia Holyoake/Ward/Maitland from the West Midlands area?
Will look into it further tonight, unless anyone else fancies a delve?
Hope Rosie checks back .....
EDIT: Found another similar article from 1877 where it says he is of 143 Houndsditch
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26 Jun 2012 16:02 |
London Gazette 27/04/1877
The Bankruptcy Act, 1869. In the London Bankruptcy Court. In tbe Matter of Proceedings for Liquidation by Arrangement or Composition with Creditors, instituted by Alfred Howell, of No. 140, Houndsditch, in the city of London, Wholesale Sheffield and Birmingham Ware houseman. NOTICE is hereby given, that a First General Meeting of the creditors of the above-named person has been summoned to be held at the London Warehousemen's Association, No. I l l, Cheapside, in the city of London, on the 14th day of May, 1877, at two o'clock in the afternoon precisely.—Dated this 18th day of April, 1877. GOWING and MANDALE, 19A, Coleman-street, E.C., Solicitors for the said Debtor.
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Christina(Lancashire)
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26 Jun 2012 22:15 |
Found another version of the newspaper article from 1870. This time it says that Catherine was 'at present residing in Liverpool'.
Could this be her? If it is, she has shaved almost 20 years off her age. Her occupation is.... 'Lady' - er, I don't think so!
1871 England Census Name: Catherine Westinacott Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Redditch, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 3813 Folio: 7 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Woolley 39 Mary Ann Woolley 30 Ann Woolley 10 Jane Woolley 7 Catherine Westinacott 31
Still can't find the elusive Mr Howell/Maitland.
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jun 2012 23:23 |
Have just read another, very long (about a full newspaper page), article in "North Devon Journal - Thursday 10 November 1870" about the whole affair.
It mentions that Catherine's connection with Maitland was summarily severed as he was compelled to quit the country having set it's laws at defiance.
Whilst Catherine was with Maitland she took to the stage and gained some notoriety and was very popular with playgoers in Birmingham.
Once she'd got her claws into Westmacott she accompanied him to the Crimea and served as an assistant to Florence Nightingale !!!!!!
When Westmacott realised she was already married (conveniently forgetting he had a wife and kids in Australia) he took advice, realised he could not legally live with her so waged a campaign of bitter letters to her family saying he'd been deceived. The paper says "the domestic relations of the parties concerned became somewhat complicated" (I'll say).
Her first husband, Edward Ward, was advised that she was guilty of robbery, perjury, adultery and bigamy. It was suggested that if proceedings took place in the Divorce Court "several gentlemen occupying high positions in society will be brought forward".
To say she was "a bit of a girl" was putting it mildly (trollop).
So, we know Maitland legged it abroad, but where?
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MarieCeleste
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26 Jun 2012 23:30 |
This one says he's an artist, so not sure:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Alfred Howell Arrival Date: 21 Aug 1854 Birth Year: abt 1814 Age: 40 Gender: Male Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: English Place of Origin: England Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: England Port of Arrival: New York Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States Ship Name: Baltic
.. or there's this, occupation looks like "customer" but can't be:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Alfred Howell Arrival Date: 6 Dec 1851 Birth Year: abt 1810 Age: 41 Gender: Male Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: English Place of Origin: England Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: England Port of Arrival: New York Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States Ship Name: America
(Not saying that either of those are him)
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26 Jun 2012 23:55 |
I think you're right Christina. Mary Ann Woolley that she was visiting also was born in Redditch I found her marriage hoping for a clue in her maiden name but she was Mary Ann Thomason, so no clue there
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Rosie
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27 Jun 2012 17:06 |
WELL DONE GUYS - Youv'e really gone to town - thank you , thank you, thank you - my fellow rellie found an article about Catherine Julia Holyoake who married Edward Ward and 6 months later she left him to live with Alfred Howell. He later changed his name to Maitland.
I have just had a quick glance at all your posts and it certainly looks as if she was a bit of a scally wag - well, all of them ! I
In the marriage record for Catherine Holyoake to Edward Ward it says under their names that both parties had been previously married in New York so the passenger lists fit in with them.
Another interesting thing is that you say that you thought that Alfred Howell was an artist in the passenger records - Robert Hopke Reed (Louisa's 2nd husband ) was a professor of music and his daughters by his first marriage were singing and artist teachers so I'm sure they all knew each other. Roberts brother Thomas German Reed and his wife Priscilla were in the theatrical business and are mentioned in the Biography records on ancestry - is there a connection here with Catherine being an actress - I'm sure they all knew each other.
I'll read all your info thoroughly now and get back to you - thank you again everyone - its becoming very interesting reading - I love skeletons in the cupboard !! :-D
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27 Jun 2012 20:23 |
Rosie, this was really one to get our teeth into - I bet there's more waiting to be uncovered.
I'm not 100% sure that those NY records are "your" Alfred Howell (I did say underneath the post that I wasn't saying they were him). There were actually a few chaps of that name around the same time so we can't be sure. The newspaper articles implied that it may have been in the 1850's. If that was the case he was back in 1860 to marry Louisa, and he was conducting business with her father in late 1850s.
I really can't believe that Mr Kemp was unaware of the shenanigans that had gone on, so why did he let his daughter marry such a bounder? Must be another story in there!
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27 Jun 2012 21:14 |
Robert Westmacott was also an artist but I'm not sure that is the connection
http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/rmw1.html
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Christina(Lancashire)
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27 Jun 2012 22:22 |
Makes interesting reading though Wendy. All his life history apart from the missing years, which must be the ones he spent with Catherine.
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27 Jun 2012 22:47 |
Plus you can look at some of his work in Google images. It does say he was a Captain but I think he said he was a Major when he married Catherine. It also says that his father bought most of his commission
Wendy
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27 Jun 2012 23:02 |
Hmmm
The Era - Sunday 20 March 1853 "Provincial Theatricals" CORK - Queen's Royal Theatre
The following ladies and gentleman are at present engaged: - List of actors and actresses currently playing there include - Mr Alfred Howell, Theatre Royal, Gloucester Miss Julia Maitland, Theatre Royal, Coventry
3d gallery, 6d pits, 1s upper circle and 2s dress circle.
Got to be them hasn't it? There are quite a few reviews in other editions of a "Miss Maitland" who was a promising new actress, lovely looking and with a sweet voice.
Perhaps Alfred leaving the country was just to Ireland. However, that NY shipping record may have been "artiste".
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27 Jun 2012 23:11 |
Yes it has got to be them. You and Christina are gradually pushing me into a paying for a sub for British Newspapers Archive! I already have GR, Ancestry and FMP but I don't have any other vices these days so I am now tempted to pay up and see what I can find
Wendy
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