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Hello,

Please can any help me.

I have today found details of a marriage of Deborah Peelow and Robert Rawlandson listed on Ancestry.

The marriage took place on 08.01.1880 at St Stephen with St Catherine in LIverpool.

I have no information about this couples parents and I was hoping to find a reference to be able to order the certificate and get some details from it.

Does anyone know how i can find the reference or perhaps obtain the details from a website.

Thanks
Suzanne :-)

Have you tried Freebmd?

www.freebmd.org.uk/

However, the details should be on Ancestry.

Jan

Have you found it on FreeBMD as that gives you the details needed to order the cert from the GRO

The image says Banns

Name: Deborah Peelow
Marriage Date: 8 Jan 1880
Parish: Liverpool St Stephen with St Catherine
Spouse's Name: Robert Rawlandson

I wonder if they actually married - what Suzanne has seen comes under 'marriages and banns'.
Jan

Hello,

Have checked Freebmd and Lancashire BMD and nothing on them. On Ancestry the details are listed under banns read from parish records, so no reference on them. :-(

Suzanne

well I can't find anyone with the surname Peelow - could it be Pellow?

And could it Rowlandson?

found this one but dates not right

Deborah Rowlandson
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1832 Liverpool
residence: 1871 West Derby,? Lancashire,? England


name: Deborah Rowlandson
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 39
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Liverpool
record type: Household
registration district: West Derby
sub-district: West Derby
event parish: West Derby
county: Lancashire

On many Rawlandson records, it is registered as rowlinson, rawlinson, rollinson,rowlandson and even rollingson.

Any of the above but still unable to trace.

is it possible that when the banns say marriage 08.01.1880, they didnt actually get married on that day.....or ever?

Suzanne

I have checked indexes 'manually' for 1st 2 quarter 1880 and no sign of Deborah Peelow.
Jan

Robert Rowlandson
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Liverpool,? Lancashire
census: 1911 Toxteth Park,? Liverpool,? Lancashire,? England


name: Robert Rowlandson
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 20
birthplace: Liverpool, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Toxteth Park
sub-district: Toxteth Park South West
parish: Toxteth Park
county: Lancashire

Hello Ann,

Yes thats them!.... they lived together in 1871 and on their sons birth certificate he is listed as the father and being married to deborah in1859 but their son had 2 birth certificates. the first registered on the 21.05.1859 and he is stated as being illigitimate and deborah unmarried, yet on the 8th june 1859 he is listed as having robert rowlandson as his father....defo something not right there.

Suzanne

Is this the couple??

1871 England Census
Name: Deborah Rowlandson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Rowlandson
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen the Martyr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 39

Robert Rowlandson 35
Deborah Rowlandson 39
Henry Rowlandson 10

Yes it is them.

Thanks Suzanne

I think a 2nd birth cert is issued if the father comes forward and acknowledges the child.
Jan

Might he have died? I see he was born 1836:

Deaths Jun 1883 (>99%)
ROWLANDSON Robert Gornell 49 W.Derby 8b 390

That would explain the second birth cert but can't understand why they would get married 20 years later.
On the 1861 census Deborah is listed as being single and living with her son. On the 1871 census she is living with Robert and classed as married. I am unable to find her on any census before or after these dates.

Suzanne

I am unsure if this is the same Robert as there is a marriage for Robert Gornell Rowlandson in the mid 1870s to another women and none of the records gbive Robert a middle initials .

Thanks Suzanne

Is there? Where is that?
Jan

sorry... mid 1860's.....1863 to either elizabeth shaw or catherine jones.

suzanne