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Christopher
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16 Jun 2012 14:02 |
Thanks - his family were also rich - i have found him in 1930 - in Orange county - down as a famer
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jun 2012 12:35 |
Christopher, the tree on Ancestry means that someone was researching Florence Mauzy, they have made no connection to the Risks.
Regarding the "deaf, dumb and blind" that is a column that would have an entry if it were applicable. In the case of your families it is not. (Look at the actual census as per mgnv's links).
It was the Mauzy family that I was referring to as not being poor.
Nothing at all unusual about taking wife back to the ranch if he was working there again - a family business. For some reason, many Americans migrate south to retire.
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Christopher
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16 Jun 2012 12:24 |
Marie - re the tree on ancestry - does that mean someone has been looking at this family?
mgnv - could you look at this post from me - http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/general_chat/thread/1301985
am i missing something is the an easier way of tracking this lot down
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Christopher
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16 Jun 2012 11:37 |
Many thanks:
Just some clarification for Marie - what i am saying is that he lived on the farm/ranch with his brothers and sisters, marries at 48 - then goes back with his wife to the farm/rnch - then with his wife heads on down to orange county.
Re the ref to Northern Ireland - they were Presb and probably did not want to be associated with Eire - indeed they were probably born 5-10km from the border.
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mgnv
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16 Jun 2012 09:40 |
You can search the US censuses, etc., using the appropriate collection here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
For 1870, 1900, 1940 you can click on link to left of transcription to get image. CA 1940 is not completely transcribed (99% done), nor indexed. It takes at least a week after the transcription's finished for them to build the searchable index and link up the appropriate image, so it'll be a couple of weeks yet for that. (One could browse thru the images by hand now, but that's a real pain.)
The blind, deaf stuff is just headers with answers left untranscribed, so who knows from that if they're disabled from that.
For the missing imagers (excl 1890 - totally burned for CA), magnify 4 clicks, then save image: http://archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel181#page/n538/mode/1up http://archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel222#page/n574/mode/1up http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu124unit#page/n453/mode/1up http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu151unit#page/n594/mode/1up http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po0109unit#page/n1371/mode/1up http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po0109unit#page/n1371/mode/1up http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus0084unit#page/n65/mode/1up
Note - In 1930 (i.e., after partition) the enumerator was to distinguish which Ireland was their p.o.b. Both James and William say N Ireland, which does rather exclude Donegal as their pob.
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 22:06 |
Re the poor bit - interestingly - the reason i am chasing the risk family is that i suspect that didi my great great grandmother out of her inheritance in donegal in 1855
long complicated (yet to be fully uncovered ) story.
dont worry - just doing it out of interest not some mad revenge trip
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 21:59 |
hi
going back to the 1880 census - what is the deaf and dumb bit/disabled?
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MarieCeleste
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15 Jun 2012 21:24 |
Looks likely:
Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959
groom: Silas H Mauzy bride: Eliza J Ross date of license: 14 Sep 1863 county of license: Rush date of marriage: 15 Sep 1863 place of marriage: , Rush, film number: 1630190 digital folder number: 4168329 image number: 00089 number of images: 1
Source Citation "Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XXFZ-HJW : accessed 15 June 2012), Silas H Mauzy, 1863.
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MarieCeleste
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15 Jun 2012 21:14 |
There's an undocumented tree on Ancestry that has Florence as the daughter of Silas Mauzy and Lydia Ross.
This is a possible:
1870 United States Federal Census Name: Silas H Mauzy Age in 1870: 39 Birth Year: abt 1831 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1870: Rushville, Rush, Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Rushville Value of real estate: $4,000, Personal Estate $19,500
Household Members: Name Age Silas H Mauzy 39 < Hardware Merchant Eliza Y Mauzy 26 Elmer Mauzy 5 Florence Mauzy 4 Lema Mauzy 2 Mary Mauzy 1/12 Jane Loolen 23
They certainly weren't poor!!
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MarieCeleste
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15 Jun 2012 21:10 |
The distances involved aren't very much really, around 30 miles Vallejo to San Francisco.
I think then, as now, Americans were used to travelling greater distances.
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Gee
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15 Jun 2012 21:08 |
California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Florence M Risk Name: Florence M Risk [Florence M Mauzy] Social Security #: 0 Sex: Female Birth Date: 29 Sep 1865 Birthplace: Indiana Death Date: 18 Sep 1951 Death Place: Orange Mother's Maiden Name: Ross Father's Surname: Mauzy
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15 Jun 2012 21:00 |
What do you mean back at home with his wife, hes with her in 1920/1930?
1900 United States Federal Census about William B Risk Name: William B Risk Age: 37 Birth Date: Jan 1863 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1900: Vallejo, Sonoma, California [Sonoma] Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1870 Relation to Head of House: Brother Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David R Risk 45 James C Risk 43 William B Risk 37 Josaphine Risk 29 Mattie M Risk 26 Thomas White 12
1910 United States Federal Census Name: William B Risk Age in 1910: 48 Birth Year: 1862 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1910: Vallejo, Sonoma, California Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1879 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Florence Risk Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William B Risk 48 Florence Risk 44 1880 United States Federal Census about William B. Risk Name: William B. Risk Age: 19 Birth Year: abt 1861 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1880: Vallejo, Sonoma, California Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: James C. Risk Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's name: Sarah Risk Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Works On Farm Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane: View image Household Members: Name Age James C. Risk 56 Sarah Risk 49 David R. Risk 26 James C. Risk 24 William B. Risk 19 Lizzie Mc C. Risk 17 Jane H. Risk 15 Nancy C. Risk 13 Sarah M. Risk 11 Josaphine B. Risk 9 Martha M. Risk 7
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 20:56 |
suspect she may have been living there
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 20:55 |
There s a newspaper ref
http://cbsrfs.ucr.edu/batches/batch_ca_20070216_llano/sn85066387/00175047918/1908082901/0553.pdf
EISK—MACZY—In this city, August 27, 1908, !>r the Rev. Samuel C. -Patterson, pastor bethany cfcurch, William Bond Risk of Petaluma «»d Florence Mauzy of San Francisco.
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MarieCeleste
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15 Jun 2012 20:42 |
Christopher, I think you may be reading the census dates out of sequence!
He marries her in 1908 and is with her on the 1910, 1920 and 1930 ......
Where does San Francisco come into it (do you have a definite record for their marriage)? It's just that there was also a William Bond of roughly the same age in San Francisco but I think he wasn't yours, that one was a stevedore.
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 20:39 |
Profuse apologies - I meant to say - he marries her aged 48 in san Francisco then goes back to the family home with his brothers an sisters - then is down south.
Just strange
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MarieCeleste
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15 Jun 2012 20:33 |
Christopher - you said he married her in 1908 so the 1910 census would surely be the first one he would be with her?
If 1908 is the correct marriage year then she would have been around 42 so they quite possibly didn't have children together.
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 20:24 |
ah - found him in 1910 back at home with his wife - so why does he leave i wonder
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 20:24 |
ah - found him in 1910 back at home with his wife - so why does he leave i wonder
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Christopher
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15 Jun 2012 20:21 |
so does all this mean no kids?
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