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Michele

Michele Report 7 Jun 2012 15:53

hi, i'm looking for a marriage but am unable to find it.
Mary Ann Cartwright was living with George West in 1911 and it states they were married for 6yrs, she is down as West they are living in Catford

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 15:58

Maybe they didnt marry. was it a 2nd marriage for her or him ? if so have you found the previous spouse's death ?

Michele

Michele Report 7 Jun 2012 16:00

It was her second marriage, yes her previous husband died in 1894

tempest

tempest Report 7 Jun 2012 16:00

is this it? looks like someone's maths was iffy (or they were together before they actually married)

BMD transcript details

Civil registration event: Marriage

Name: WEST, George

Registration district: St. Olave Southwark
County: London
Year of registration: 1908
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 436

MarriageFinderâ„¢: George West married married one of the following people

CARTWRIGHT, Mary Ann
REARDON, Elizabeth
DUNN, Edward William

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 16:01

just to establish who we are looking at
1911 census transcription details for: 110 Brookdale Road Catford
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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN2779 RG78PN95 RD29 SD3 ED30 SN359
Reg. District: Lewisham
Sub District: Lewisham
Parish: Lewisham
Enum. District: 30
Address: 110 Brookdale Road Catford
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WEST, George Head Married
6 years M 46 1865 Labourer Sewer Flusher Deptford
WEST, Mary Ann Wife Married
6 years F 50 1861 Thornham Kent
CARTWRIGHT, Kate Daughter Single F 21 1890 Bermondsey

Michele

Michele Report 7 Jun 2012 16:05

wow thats the one , thank you, you make all so easy.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 16:06

1901 wheres Kate??

1901 census transcription details for: 9, Ladywell Park Terrace, Lewisham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 549
Folio: 107
Page: 37
Reg. District: Lewisham
Sub District: Lewisham
Parish: Lewisham
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary's
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 9, Ladywell Park Terrace, Lewisham
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CARTWRIGHT, John F Head Married M 22 1879 General Labourer
Thornham, Kent
CARTWRIGHT, Eliza A Wife Married F 22 1879
Bermondsey, London
CARTWRIGHT, John Son M 2 1899
Deptford, London
CARTWRIGHT, George Son M 1 1900
Lewisham, London
CARTWRIGHT, Mary A Mother Widow F 40 1861 Charwoman
Thornham, Kent

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 16:09

1891
1891 census transcription details for: 21, West Lane, Bermondsey
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 374
Folio: 31
Page: 56
Reg. District: St Olave Southwark
Sub District: St James Bermondsey
Parish: Bermondsey
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Crispins
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, West Lane, Bermondsey
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CARTWRIGHT, Edwin Head Married M 32 1859 Broom Handle Manufacturer
Bermondsey, London
CARTWRIGHT, Mary Wife Married F 31 1860
Maidstone, Kent
CARTWRIGHT, John Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Maidstone, Kent
CARTWRIGHT, George Son M 4 1887
London
CARTWRIGHT, Mary Daughter F 2 1889
London
CARTWRIGHT, Kate Daughter F 1 1890
London
CARTWRIGHT, James Brother Married M 42 1849 Broom Handle Maker
London
CARTWRIGHT, Mary Niece F 6 1885 Scholar
London
TOLHURST, Annie Sister In Law Single F 27 1864
Maidstone, Kent
BROWN, George Boarder Single M 22 1869 Broom Handle Maker
Nottingham

tempest

tempest Report 7 Jun 2012 16:16

possibly Kate and her sister Mary on 1901 census

Institution: Royal Victoria Patriotic Asylum, Wandsworth Common London S W

CARTWRIGHT, Kate Fatherless Daughters Of Sailor F 11 1890 Not Known Eng

also

1901 census

Institution: Royal Victoria Patriotic Asylum, Wandsworth Common London S W

CARTWRIGHT, Mary Fatherless Daughters Of Sailor F 12 1889 Not Known Eng

Michele

Michele Report 7 Jun 2012 16:41

yes you found all that i have, although i have lost Kate don't know who she married or where she went after 1911 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 16:47

maybe
MarriageFinder: Kate Cartwright married Albert E P Lukey
Name: CARTWRIGHT, Kate
Registration district: Pancras
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Lukey
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 116

Name: LUKEY, Albert E P
Registration district: Pancras
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Cartwright
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 116



not sure as her age is out a bit

Name: LUKEY, Kate
Registration district: Pancras
County: London
Year of registration: 1934
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 47
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 79

so would make her born circa 1887/6

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 16:50

is this her birth?
Births Mar 1890
Cartwright Kate Thornton St. Olave 1d 283

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 16:56

seems to be!!
Name: Kate Thornton Cartwright
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1896
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1896
Father's Name: Edwin Frederick Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary Ann Cartwright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Parish Registers
born 25.1.1890


might as well have the others too

ame: George William Thornton Cartwright
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1896
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1896
Father's Name: Edwin Frederick Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary Ann Cartwright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
born 12.3.1887


Name: Mary Ann Thornton Cartwright
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1896
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1896
Father's Name: Edwin Frederick Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary Ann Cartwright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Parish Registers
born 24.6.1888
so all baptised the same day
Register Type: Parish Registers


home address 22 Knotts Terrace

Edwin occ Carpenter


Strange baptised after Edwins death but it doenst say he was deceased on the record :-|

tempest

tempest Report 7 Jun 2012 17:02


possibly

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Kate Thornton Cartwright
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 14 January 1890
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1896
Father's Name: Edwin Frederick Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary Ann Cartwright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: Mary Ann Thornton Cartwright

Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 June 1888
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1896
Father's Name: Edwin Frederick Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary Ann Cartwright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Parish Registers



Name: George William Thornton Cartwright
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 12 March 1887
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1896
Father's Name: Edwin Frederick Cartwright
Mother's name: Mary Ann Cartwright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Parish Registers

tempest

tempest Report 7 Jun 2012 17:04

I wonder??


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Kate Thornton Cartwright

Name: Kate Thornton Cartwright

Spouse Name: Horace William Baron
Marriage Date: 26 Sep 1914
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1914
Registration number: 001081
Page Number: 4082

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 17:09

Name: Kate CARTWRIGHT
Date of departure: 5 January 1912
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Brisbane, Australia
Passenger destination: Brisbane, Australia

Date of Birth: 1891 (calculated from age)
Age: 21
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Domestic Servt
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 10



Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
OSWESTRY GRANGE
114066
C S Crichton
Queensland Line
Brisbane, Australia
9363
4730
353



tempest

tempest Report 7 Jun 2012 17:09


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
about Kate Thornton Baron

Name: Kate Thornton Baron
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1963
State: Victoria
District: higinbotham
Subdistrict: Sandringham

it says she was a nurse

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 17:13

Name: Mary Ann T Cartwright
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 859

spouse Albert Fritz T Gentzen or William Edward Peckover

william married Elizabeth Dixon on the same reg so Mary married Albert

tempest

tempest Report 7 Jun 2012 17:20

Horace and Kate are on a tree on ancestry, no children listed


Horace's death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name: Horace William Baron
Death Date: 30 Aug 1921
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Edward Albert Baron
Mother's name:Alice Stoneystreet
Registration Year: 1921
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: B035381
Page Number: 76

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2012 17:22

ame: Mrs Mary GENTZEN
Date of departure: 26 May 1909
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: None
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 4



Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
KRONPRINZ WILHELM
Capt Mirich
Nord-Deutscher Lloyd
New York, USA
5162
55