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Oh darn. What a shame that Emma's name is so common.

I do wonder if the boys (James and Samuel) were registered under Clark?

Maureen

Well,I think I've found Emma and Eleanor in 1891:

1891 census transcription details for: 15, Colonel Square, Kendal Or Kirkby Kendal, Kendal
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4332
Folio: 147
Page: 3
Reg. District: Kendal
Sub District: Kendal
Parish: Kendal or Kirkby Kendal
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary
City/Municipal Borough: Kendal
Address: 15, Colonel Square, Kendal Or Kirkby Kendal, Kendal
County: Westmorland
COOK, George Head Married M 45 1846 General Labourer
Netherton, Somersetshire
>>COOK, Emma Wife Married F 38 1853
Coleshill, Warwickshire
>>COOK, Helenor Daughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar
Horsted Keynes, Sussex
COOK, Charles Son Single M 15 1876 General Labourer
Whitwell, Derbyshire
MORRIS, Joseph Boarder M 36 1855 General Labourer
Hereford, Herefordshire
LEESON, Jane Boarder F 42 1849
Walton on Thames, Middlesex
HARMER, Henry Boarder M 6 1885 Scholar
Gravesend, Kent


Maureen

Oh, well done Maureen!

Do you think it looks as if Emma wasn't the mother of Samuel and James?
Emma has no trouble in remembering her age and place of birth, nor the age and place of birth of her daughter.

On the other hand, Samuel, James and their father Samuel are all over the place. I think Emma would have been more consistant.

hi what can i do now i have the birth cert of eleanor gunn with emma gunn formally clark named as the mother and samuel gunn named as the father dated 16 november 1880 reg dist. cuckfield union is there any way i can get a marriage cert for sam and emma? help cheers malcolm

help me please can anyone find a marriage certificate for samuel born 1845 and emma born 1853 thanks

I would have thought that if it was going to be found then the members would have found it by now

Sorry

I really don't think Samuel and Emma ever got married. By 1891 Emma had left Samuel and was living with George Cook. I don't think she married him either.

Emma was still alive in 1890, so had she been married to Samuel, he wouldn't have been free to marry Harriet.

When Emma left she took only Eleanor with her. I have a feeling she wasn't James or Samuel's mother.

Don't know if this will lead to anything, but on the freebmd birth registrations
for Guisborough -

James Gunn Clay reg. jul-sep 1871 and

Samuel Clay reg.ape-jun 1875

Oh - pity. I don't think the above are connected as there's also a Joseph Gunn Clay b.1864 and an Isaac Gunn Clay b.1869.

thanks christinaS i think you are right as i cannot find any records for them and also sams father i think he was not married either until later i have latched onto a james gunn born in 1826 and married to eliza born in brantham suffolk the link i have he was a carpenter the same as samuel he is on the marriage cert. for harriet and samuel i think i am on the right line

hi all can anyone find any info on JAMES gunn married to mary sougar JAMES was born in 1755 in 1676894 suffolk and may have died 1822 in bratham suffolk they had 3 children born in brantham, rachel, james and lucy i have tried to find their PARENTS without any luck as i believe this could be my family tree IS THERE ANY OTHER RECORDS FOR RESEARCH BEYOND 1750 THANKS

hi is there any other records for reseach beyond 1755 for james gunn as my previous threads thanks

hi is there any other records for reseach beyond 1755 for james gunn as my previous threads thanks