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Annie (Ann) Bengaff nee Hughes 1885 USA

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Keith

Keith Report 13 May 2012 14:02

Thankyou, this looks like the right one, matching with her dob.
Can you expand any further please

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 13 May 2012 14:09

LOL!!! Please don't request me to expand. My rear end is doing a lot of that lately. ;-)

1930 United States Federal Census about Annie Bengaff
Name: Annie Bengaff
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island

Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Annie Bengaff 44
John Bengaff 16
Grace Bengaff 14
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island; Roll: 2169; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 16; Image: 408.0; FHL microfilm: 2341903.
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1920 United States Federal Census about Annie Bengaff
Name: Annie Bengaff
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Providence Ward 3, Providence, Rhode Island
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: James S Bengaff
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
James S Bengaff 35
Annie Bengaff 33
John S Bengaff 5
Grace E Bengaff 3
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Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Providence Ward 3, Providence, Rhode Island; Roll: T625_1678; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 194; Image: 567


Maureen


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 14:13

Well done Maureen!

(I'll stop looking for Eric now .....)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 14:15

Looks like James was away on business in 1930:

1930 United States Federal Census about James Bengaff
Name: James Bengaff
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Rhode Island
Race: White
Home in 1930: Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey

Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Roomer
Father's Birthplace: Rhode Island
Mother's Birthplace: Rhode Island
Occupation: Finishing, bleachery
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage: 21
Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Walsh 63
Peter L Thoner 33
Helen Thoner 29
Robert G Thoner 4[4 10/12]
Donald T Thoner 0[1/12]
William Van Dungen 47
Samuel Fineberg 60
James Bengaff 45
Ray Moore 25
Shirley Moore 21
John Pettit 32
Mary Pettit 29

The other people all appear to be roomers.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 14:21

On the 1930 for Annie, it states she was 27 at first marriage, so that would be 1912, very soon after she arrived.

James was 21 at his first marriage, which would have been c1906.

Also, the 1930 says born Rhode Island, but the 1920 says he was born Isle of Man and immigrated 1903. Both he and Annie were naturalised 1917.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 14:57

The Bengaffs made a trip to England, this is them arriving back:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: James Bengaff
Arrival Date: 26 Aug 1930
Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cedric

James naturalised 1917 Superior Court, RI

Travelling with
Alice (???) 43 - naturalised by marriage
Grace born May 1916
John born 01 August 1914

Home was East Greenwich, Rhode Island.

On the departure from Liverpool Annie's name is correct. James' occupation is a "folder".

They had been staying at 9 Rhyl Street, Bootle. That was Annie's mother's address when she left England in 1911.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:08

No mention of Annie on this record:

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)
Name: James S Bengaff
Residence Year: 1914
Street Address: 288 So Main
Residence Place: Warwick, Rhode Island
Occupation: Bleachery
Publication Title: Warwick, Rhode Island, City Directory, 1914

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:13

Now we know what the S stands for on James' middle name:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: James Sylvaster Bengaff
Arrival Date: 8 May 1904
Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Umbria

Keith

Keith Report 13 May 2012 15:13

Sorry we missed and thanks so much ladies for all your help here today. Been looking for this woman for over ten years! 9 Rhyl Street is actually her sister's Grace address, as her mother lived at 13! It was also bombed in ww2 as it is very close to the docks!
My main tree is actually on Ancestry and am updating the records on there now, as easier to obtain on there.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:19

That's OK Keith, pleased we got there in the end!

Do keep checking back on here as there are probably a few more records to be found.

Annie's arrival form in Boston most definitely gives her mothers address as 9 Rhyl Street.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:19

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name: James Sylvester Bengaff
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1883
Birth Place: Douglos Isle of Man, Great Britain
Residence: Passaic, New Jersey
Race: White

His address was 41 Broadway, Passaic, New Jersey.

Gives name of person who will know his address as daughter Mrs Theodore M Vogt, 49 Morris Road, Allwood, New Jersey.

Worked for the Eurika Printing Company in Clifton, NJ.

Keith

Keith Report 13 May 2012 15:22

9 Rhyl Street was originally her Mother,s address, but when Grace married and had her family, she took it over and her mother then moved over the road into 13.
Very confusing!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:27

Found the son's death:

Social Security Death Index
Name: John S. Bengaff
Last Residence: 07675 Westwood, Bergen, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 1 Aug 1914
Died: 9 Oct 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)

Obituaries - The Record, Bergen County, NJ › October 28, 2004
JOHN S. BENGAFF, 90, of Allendale died Oct. 9. Before retiring in 1974, he was a mail carrier for the U.S. Postal Service in Waldwick. He was an Army Air Corps veteran of World War II. Arrangements: Direct Cremations, Paterson.

Keith

Keith Report 13 May 2012 15:29

That was 6 days before we emigrated over to Florida. now back over the pond in the cold though!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:32

Daughter Grace travelling with husband Theodore (born 1913 Passaic,NJ) - perhaps their honeymoon?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Grace Vogt
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1938
Birth Year: abt 1916
Birth Location: Rhode Island
Birth Location Other: E Greenwich
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Hamilton, Bermuda
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Queen of Bermuda

Home was 110 Howe Street, Passaic

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:38

It looks like James might have been a bit older than he states?

BENGAFF, Anne Wife Head Married F 43 1838 Labourers Wife Ireland
BENGAFF, Isabella Daughter Single F 14 1867 Labourers Daughter Douglas Isle of Man
BENGAFF, Henry Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Douglas Isle of Man
BENGAFF, Alice Daughter Single F 3 1878 Douglas Isle of Man
BENGAFF, James Silvester Son Single M 1 1880 Douglas Isle of Man

Piece: 5603 Folio: 50 Page: 15
Registration District: 15
Civil Parish: Conchan

Address: 9, King Street, Conchan County: Isle of Man
_________________________________________________

Isle of Man, Births and Baptisms, 1821-1911

name: James Sylvester Bengaff
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 27 Aug 1879 <<
birthplace: Douglas, Isle of Man, England
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Bengaff
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Anne Tomkins Bengaff
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00925-4
system origin: Isle of Man-EASy
source film number: 454959
reference number: P 231

Source Citation
"Isle of Man, Births and Baptisms, 1821-1911," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5GW-F9X : accessed 13 May 2012), James Sylvester Bengaff, 1879.

Keith

Keith Report 13 May 2012 15:46

Conchan Isle of Man is where the Quiggin's on my line come from, connected with my other posting...wonder if they knew each other!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:54

There's no dates given on these records:

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2
Name: James S Bengaff
Address: 81 Rivervale Rd Apt 1-1a, Rivervale, NJ, 07675-6285

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2
Name: James S Bengaff
Address: 45 New St, Allendale, NJ, 07401-2122

(Haven't found a death yet for James).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 15:56

Might this be Grace's death?

Social Security Death Index
Name: Grace Vogt
SSN: 393-01-1837
Last Residence: 32778 Tavares, Lake, Florida, United States of America
Born: 7 May 1915
Last Benefit: 32778 Tavares, Lake, Florida, United States of America
Died: May 1977
State (Year) SSN issued:

EDIT: Don't think so, believe she remarried.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 May 2012 16:04

Son John's military:

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

Name: John S Bengaff
Birth Year: 1914
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Rhode Island
State of Residence: New Jersey
County or City: Passaic

Enlistment Date: 25 Jun 1942
Enlistment State: New Jersey
Enlistment City: Newark
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 1 year of college
Civil Occupation: Semiskilled occupations in laundering, cleaning, dyeing, and pressing apparel and other articles
Marital Status: Single, with dependents
Height: 71
Weight: 167