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Hi Anne

Looks highly likely they didn't have children if none have showed up on the ERs. Even if they did we don't have names so end of the road I think!

Many thanks for all your help

Flip

Hi Flip,
Checked all electoral roll entries from through to 1981.
Hugh Alexander and Emily remained at Penrose Road and can be found there in in both 1969 and 1972
At 1978 and1981 they had moved to 74B Highland Park Ave, Pakuranga, Auckland.
No other person called Meyer is found in their household in any electoral year.

Anne

Thanks Anne, I appreciate your help and like you I don't like posting up details of living people.

Flip,
NZ electoral rolls go up to 1981.
Did a quick scan and both Emily and Hugh Alexander Myers can be found up until then
Will revisit the rolls later this evening. If any children materialize, I will PM the results.
I worry about venturing into the land of the living, and if they had children, they would no doubt fall into this category.
I would not provide details on a public forum.

Anne

Oddly,
When I started in family history, I started with my husband's tree ( mine is almost entirely Irish)
His mum is a Smith, and her line hails from Aberdeenshire/Banffshire.
These Smiths were by far the easiest family to research, simply because they didn't move about very much.
Even those who emigrated to Australia were easily identifiable because of the naming pattern that they retained.
PS my mum in law ( Smith) was born in 1923. She is still pretty active and "completely independant", so theoretically Emily could still be out there somewhere.
Anne

It would be good to find her or their children (if they had any) but this is my first adventure into NZ and with the birth/marriage records being closed for so long it's difficult to find anything. There's no Emily Meyer showing up in the phone book anywhere in NZ.

I really surprised (and pleased) we got this far - with a name like Smith I really though it would be an impossible task for what was a quiet day - but I hadn't taken into account the incredible skills of all you helpers!

Many thanks

Of course,she could still be living.

Looks like Hugh Alexander Meyer died in 2001 ref 20113 it gave his dob as 2/6/1917, but I can't see a death for Emily though.

Oh that's absolutly brilliant - can't thank you enough for all your work Anne.

Hi Flip,
BINGO!
NB electoral rolls are ordered alphabetically . First by surname, then by first names


After William's death:
1949, his wife Emily Jane (widow) was living at 19 Hauiti Road but daughter Emily Smith was not listed in the household .
Same details for 1956

By 1957. Emily Jane had moved and was now living at:
281 Penrose Road, Onehunga, Auckland and was still there at 1963

I thought it would be an idea to check 1963 for anyone else called Emily who lived in Onehunga, hoping that the same address would come up..... and it did!

1963: 281 Penrose Road, Onehunga, Auckland
Meyer, Hugh Alexander. Coachworker
Meyer, Emily. Married
I needed to be sure....

I retraced back to 1949 when I knew that Emily Jane was still in Hauiti Road and searched for Hugh Alexander Meyer and Emily Meyer

YESSSSS!!!!
They lived at the same address as Emily Jane.... 19 Hauiti Road.

It means that young Emily married Hugh Alexander Meyer between 1946 and 1949

Anne

Hi Anne,

Yes, according to William's death record the daughter was 26, therefore born 1921/2 - I can't find a birth in UK so assume this was in NZ.

Flip,
Voting age in NZ was 21yrs.
Daughter Emily must have been 21 or over at 1946, meaning she was born earlier than 1926.
If she made return trip to UK-NZ in the late 1930's, then she would have been in her early teens at the time.

Anne

Emily Jane died 3/7/1967 - Cupcakes found that - and she was buried in the same grave as William in Otahuhu. Think I'll order the death record and see if that gives anything more.

Thanks

Flip,
I am not convinced that this is the correct William Mawson Smith from 1936, yet I cannot find another one with a wife called Emily (Jane) living in a single household?


If he is the correct man, then I cannot identify his wife at any other address.
I tried looking for her in 1936, and then after William's death, but have already found 2 x Emily Jane Smith in the same electoral year and both were widows!

I assume she died in Auckland?
I will look again later and attempt to narrow her down.

Anne

I can't work out the 1936 either?? But that is surely them in 1946, thanks Anne,
I tried Sylvia's suggestion of trying to find them returning to NZ in the late 30s, but the only one I could come up with was in 1944 where there was a E Smith (adult) travelling with another E Smith (no age) but couldn't see a W Smith with them.

1928: Victoria Street, Waihi,
Smith, Emily Jane . Married
Smith, William Mawson. Railway Employee


1936: Pakarangua, Hauraki, Auckland
Smith, William Mawson. Dairy Farmer
Smith, Mabel Jessie Louise, MARRIED
Smith, Stanley Coard, Farmer
(I cannot work 1936 out? Where is his wife or is this another William Mawson Smith?


1946: 15 Hauiti Road, Otahuhu, Auckland
Smith, Emily Jane -MARRIED
Smith, Emily SPINSTER
Smith, William Mawson Labourer
(So, looks like the daughter was also called EMILY)

Regards
Anne

Thanks Anne, that would be great - I expect Emily Jane will show up, but not sure about the daughter in the earlier two as I think she would have been too young.

Hi Pelo - not sure that they would show up as Mawson as the family went under the name of Smith - William used Mawson as his middle name. But thanks for the info.

Added - just had another look at the death record Sept 1948 - it gave his address as 19 Hauiti Road, but I hadn't been able to make it out.

Hi Flip,
William Mawson Smith appears on the NZ Electoral Rolls of :
1928, 1936 and 1946
In 1946, he was a labourer living at 15, Hauiti Road, Otahuhu, Auckland.
Like you say, the name is Smith!
Entries on rolls in alphabetical order but I will look at all 3 rolls, starting at A Smith, and see if there is anyone else named Smith living at the same property.

Anne

Flip,

Have just seen your last post.

Perhaps the Malcolm & his sister are the next one's down the line because his parents would have been about the same age as my mum born 1919.
Sorry I have no living family from then to ask.

Hi Flip,

I remember a Malcolm Mawson going to the same school (Beckenham) that I was at late 1940's early 1950's. He was a quiet boy who seemed to keep to himself. If I remember rightly he had sandy reddish hair & freckles - the kind Scot's/Northern English get under the fierce New Zealand sun on their fair skin. I think he lived in the St Martins area of Christchurch because he used to come & go from school with a couple of boys who lived there. Had a younger sister I think- don't know her name.
Not much help really because I can't remember him at secondary school.