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annoyingly he seems to have given his father as JOSEPH when marrying!

Good Luck!

Maybe this one is the one you thought was your Arthur T. Father a butcher. Baptised with sister Ada who was born 1864.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Arthur Thomas Palmer Name: Arthur Thomas Palmer
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1866
Baptism Date: 20 May 1866
Father's Name: Alfred Palmer
Mother's Name: Hannah Ann Palmer
Parish or Poor Law Union: Rotherhithe St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Vera

Hey Jude

THANK YOU XXX


where did you see that Arthur called his father Joseph

Vera


OOOOOOOH NOOOOOOO




is it back to the drawing board ¿

Well we got the correct marriage ............for sure

Original shows Sterne

1861 census transcription details for: 5a, Trafalgar Street, St Mary Newington, Lambeth
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 342 Folio: 17 Page: 39

Reg. District: Newington Sub District: 2 St Peter Walworth
Parish: St Mary Newington Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter Walworth City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth
Address: 5a, Trafalgar Street, St Mary Newington, Lambeth
County: London, Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
STEENE, Thomas Head Married M 45 1816 Shopman To Leather Cutter
Lavenham
Suffolk
STEENE, Maria Wife Married F 42 1819
Lavenham
Suffolk
STEENE, Edward M Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Tape Measure Makers
Lambeth
Surrey
STEENE, Lawrence H Son Unmarried M 2 1859
Walworth
Surrey
PALMER, Joseph Boarder Unmarried M 20 1841 Porter To Furniture Makers
Morpeth
Suffolk <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

1861 (Eliza nearby)

GOULD, Elizabeth Head Widow F 74 1787 Needlewoman
Newington
Surrey
STERNE, Eliza Ann Niece Unmarried F 15 1846 Servant
Newington
Surrey
GREGORY, Elizabeth Niece Married F 31 1830 Needlewoman
Newington
Surrey
GREGORY, Elizabeth Grandniece Unmarried F 6 1855 Scholar
Newington
Surrey
Piece:
342 Folio:
16 Page:
38 Registration District:
Newington
Civil Parish:
St Mary Newington Municipal Borough:
Lambeth Address:
6a, Trafalgar Street, St Mary Newington, Lambeth County:
London, Surrey

1851

STORNE, Thomas Head Married M 32 1819 Porter
Lavenham
Suffolk
STORNE, Maria Wife Married F 31 1820
Ipswich
Suffolk
STORNE, Susannah Daughter F 9 1842
Ipswich
Suffolk
STORNE, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1844
Lambeth
Surrey
STORNE, Eliza Daughter F 5 1846
Lambeth
Surrey
STORNE, Edmund Son M 3 1848
Lambeth
Surrey
STORNE, Hannah Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1851
Lambeth
Surrey
STORNE, John Brother Unmarried M 29 1822 Dealer
Lavenham
Suffolk
STORNE, Martin Brother Married M 28 1823 Dealer
Lavenham
Suffolk
STORNE, Mahala Wife Married F 29 1822
Lavenham
Suffolk
STORNE, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1843
Lavenham
Suffolk
EAST, George Nephew Unmarried M 17 1834 Bootmaker
Lavenham
Suffolk
TAYLOR, John Head Married M 76 1775
Market Dilln
Salop
TAYLOR, Hannah Head Married F 78 1773
Market Dilln
Salop
Piece:
1573 Folio:
70 Page:
28 Registration District:
Lambeth
Civil Parish:
St Mary Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Lambeth Address:
1, Regency Square, St Mary Lambeth, Lambeth County:
Surrey


1871 (witness, Susannah, Sister)

SIMPSON, Thomas Head M 31 1840 Yorkshire (Upholsterer)
SIMPSON, Susannah Wife F 29 1842 Suffolk Ipswich (School Mistress)
SIMPSON, Margaret Daughter F 2 1869 Yorkshire
SIMPSON, George Herbert Son M 0 1871 Yorkshire
Piece:
4318 Folio:
89 Page:
32 Registration District:
Keighley
Civil Parish:
Keighley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Queen Street, Keighley County:
Yorkshire


Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Simpson Thomas Keighley 9a 235
Sterne Susannah Keighley 9a 235


(no advance on Arthur's Birth)

Chris :)

Deaths ?...

Name: PALMER, Arthur
Registration district: [?] Surrey Mid Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:77
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 591

Name: PALMER, Betsy M
Registration district: [?] Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1932
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:66
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 693

The marriage was on Familysearch. Vera yes I had found that Arthur T in a few censuses and also on family search with different parents. I just wonder why, whn he married, he is shown as Thomas Arthur...

1911

PALMER, Walter Edmund Head Single M 34 1877 Compositor Croydon Surrey
PALMER, Eliza Ann Mother Widow F 65 1846 Lambeth Surrey
STERNE, Elizabeth Aunt Visitor Single F 67 1844 Retired Matron Hospital Ipswich Suffolk
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2097 Reference:
RG14PN2097 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED48 SN303
Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
48 Parish:
Lambeth
Address:
64 Shakespeare Road Herne Hill S E County:
London

Chris :)

Well found Chris - beats my effort! :-)

Lol Jude, I was just about to read back and check...image says she has been Married 27 years though!!, 7 children born, 5 living, 2 died.

Chris :)

Just had a quick dinner and came back to more GOOD stuffs



THANKYOU


am assuming a mistype in the registry ..... my own sister whose birth cert shows Marie .............is listed as Maria


and my brothers 2 middle names are transposed ...... I know I will need certs ......................again


Thank you xxx

Chris

Eliza had been married 27 years when he died in 1893


xxx

(oops!, yes, lol)

Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
STEARN Thomas Ipswich 12 537
WILDING Maria Ipswich 12 537

Chris :)

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